Globalists Plan to Stay in Afghanistan Forever

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
August 20, 2011

Ben Farmer, writing for The Telegraph on Friday, reported that the U.S. and Afghanistan have reached an agreement that would allow American special forces and air force to remain in the country until 2024. The agreement arrives as the United States claims it will pack up and leave by the end of 2014.

In December of 2009, during a speech delivered at West Point, Obama said troops would begin leaving Afghanistan. Prior to the speech, the Pentagon said it would send an additional 30,000 troops as part of a “mini-surge.” NATO was asked to send between 5,000 and 10,000 troops as part of an international force. In early 2010, the Pentagon increased substantially its “new civilian forces” outside of Kabul, according to ABC News.

Afghanistan’s hand-picked president, Hamid Karzai, confirmed earlier this year that the United States plans to establish permanent bases in his country. “Yes they want this (permanent bases) and we have been negotiating with them,” Karzai said at a press conference in his presidential palace in February. “We believe that a long-term relationship with the United States is in the interest of Afghanistan.”

The deal was negotiated without the participation or approval of the Afghan parliament or the grand tribal council known as the Loya Jirga.

The plan announced last week was peddled as part of the effort to train the Afghan military and police. “If [the Americans] provide us weapons and equipment, they need facilities to bring that equipment,” said Rangin Dadfar Spanta, Karzai’s top security adviser. “If they train our police and soldiers, then those trainers will not be 10 or 20, they will be thousands.”

The continued U.S. presence at numerous bases in Afghanistan is central to the generational war planned to fight against so-called international terrorism, itself a creation of U.S. and British intelligence. “We know we will be confronted with international terrorists. 2014, is not the end of international terrorist networks and we have a common commitment to fight them. For this purpose also, the US needs facilities,” said Spanta.

Andrey Avetisyan, Russian ambassador to Kabul, told The Telegraph permanent U.S. bases should not be required. “I don’t understand why such bases are needed. If the job is done, if terrorism is defeated and peace and stability is brought back, then why would you need bases?” he asked. “If the job is not done, then several thousand troops, even special forces, will not be able to do the job that 150,000 troops couldn’t do. It is not possible.”

  • A d v e r t i s e m e n t

The deal is designed to continue the engineered conflict in Afghanistan. The Taliban have said they will not negotiate peace with the government in Kabul until all U.S. troops have left the country. According to Abdul Hakim Mujahid, deputy leader of the “peace” council set up by Karzai to seek a settlement with the Taliban, the deal to keep a substantial number of U.S. troops in the country will intensify the insurgency.

In 2010, Pakistani president Asif Ali Zardari said the Taliban was created by the CIA and ISI, the Pakistan intelligence agency. He also said the Pentagon is orchestrating Taliban attacks.

Most Afghans believe the U.S. is funding and supporting the Taliban in order to continue the war and occupation of their country. “The US uses Israel to threaten the Arab states, and they want to make Afghanistan into the same thing,” a highly educated Afghan professional told The Guardian in May of 2010. “Whoever controls Asia in the future, controls the world.”

For more detail, see Afghans: U.S. Created and Funds Taliban.

Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser and Rockefeller globalist Zbigniew Brzezinski argued in his book, The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives, that controlling Eurasia is essential to the global pre-eminence of the elite. “It is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America,” he writes (by “America,” Brzezinski means the global elite represented by the CFR and the Trilateral Commission).

The Taliban originated from from Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-run religious schools for Afghan refugees in Pakistan following the CIA’s war against the Soviet Union. Selig Harrison from the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars has admitted that the CIA created the Taliban. Harrison is an expert on Asian affairs and has had extensive contact with the CIA and political leaders in South Asia. He is closely aligned with the globalists through the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

The anti-Soviet Mujahideen that provided recruits for the Taliban was aided by the CIA, a fact admitted by its former director, Robert Gates. The secret plan to create the Mujahideen prior to the invasion of the country was “was an excellent idea,” according to Brzezinski. “What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?” he told Le Nouvel Observateur in 1998.

The Pentagon will not leave Afghanistan in 2024. It plans to stay there forever and operate as a “muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers,” as former Marine Major General Smedley Butler said in 1933, referring to his work for them in the Philippines, China, and Latin America.






 
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59 Responses to “Globalists Plan to Stay in Afghanistan Forever”

  1. With who’s money?

    • Fractional Reserve Banking.

  2. -We believe that a long-term relationship with the United States is in the interest of Afghanistan.”-

    So the ‘invasion and war for democracy’ failed. So it as to have a US policestatemilitia occupation ‘for ever’ . So that’ll be body bags for ever.

    What say the Afghan people?

  3. Capt. Nimmo,
    Are you a reporter or are you a regugatator?
    This is not news!
    This is 10 years old!!!!
    get a job Nimmo!Quit using up space in here.
    Cuz you sure ain’t no reporter!

  4. … ‘sumsrent’ is trying to distract you from the real issues … don’t listen, the Muslims did not do 9/11 … it was CIA/MI6/Mossad … the proof is in the evidence …

    • … and don’t let ‘recondo’, ‘andy’, or ‘my two cents’ distract you either … it is pretty clearly what trolls like this are up to … muddy the water so no one can see clearly.

    • MI6 is the mother agency to the CIA and Mossad. British Imperialism sucks! Without God you will all fall down slain, and not rise up again.

      • Massudo may be another spin-doctor and disinformation agent also like ‘recondo’s’ basement …

    • You call me out as being distractive yet you post about the idiot John Lennon.

    • Indeed American Airlines do not own nor fly any silvery-painted green airplanes. the military 737-600 that hit the pentagon appears to have been a (MI6) South African plane.

      tinyurl.com/whathitpentagon

  5. Instant Karma – John Lennon

    Uploaded by jigowatts on Oct 9, 2006

    this up there with imagine is most likely johns best songs personaly i don’t think her ever wrote anything that wasn’t genius and a message to us all.

    happy 70th birthday john ! october 9th 2010
    we need you now more than ever !

    htt*://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqP3wT5lpa4

    * = p

    • Did you know that back in the 60’s there were album burning protests in opposition to Lennon saying that the Beatles were “more popular than Jesus.” In a recent media article, it says “It’s an infamous remark… and… unfairly taken out of context…” But really?

      John Lennon included theses words before those infamous words…
      “Christianity will go, it will vanish and shrink. I needn’t argue about that. I’m right and will be proved right. . . .We’re more popular than Jesus now.” (San Francisco Chronicle, April 13, 1966, p.26)

      Why are these other words deleted from the article? Why are we told that the infamous words are “taken out of context”?

      Only to feed the masses with deception.

      John Lennon, in his book, A Spaniard in the Works, portrays Jesus Christ as…
      “Jesus El Pifico, a garlic-eating, stinking little yellow, greasy fascist bastard catholic Spaniard.” (A Spaniard in the Works, p.14).

      It was Paul McCartney of The Beatles who said…t was Paul McCartney of The Beatles who said…
      “We probably seem to be anti-religious. . . none of us believes in God.” (Hit Parader, Jan 1970, p.15)

      • Leonard 59 appears to be an athiest. Don’t expect them to listen to anything about God.

    • awww. how sentimental, brings a tear to my eye,NOT!!
      Lennon sux

  6. *** One nuclear cruise missile still missing from the rogue B-52. ***

    They’re going to NUKE YOU, then they’re going to EBOLA YOUR FAT ASS REAL GOOD BOY!

  7. Can anyone explain why the British are now selling expensive military equipment at rediculously low prices? The aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal built at a cost of 200 million pounds, is now going for 3.5 million pounds. Who is going to buy this stuff? Type 22 frigates costing 400 million pounds have been knocked down to 300,000 pounds, destroyers at just a million pounds. 13 gazelle helicopters which cost almost 5 million to build apiece are being sold at just 100,000 pounds. They say it’s to help plug the gaping hole in their 36 billion ministry of defenses budget, but there has to be a better way to do that than selling high priced military equipment at knock off prices.

    • I’ll take one of each,to go please!
      Who do I make the check out to??
      Do they accept VISA?
      hahahhahhhhhhahaha! lmsbo!!

  8. it leaves us wide open and vunerable to an invasion by foreign troops. Don’t think so? remember that Chinese submarine that was spotted off the coast of California ?
    AHHHHHHHHHH! They can walk right in with Russia comin’ in from the north and the east and the Chinese on the west coast and then we get invaded from the south,perfect set up.
    and you goddamn fools don’t even see it.

    • because most everyone believes there’s a savior in d.c. and that they’ll keep us safe from invaders. But at the same time they don’t see that this gov’t is killing them before and better than a foreign country can. All by design. Then when a nuke goes off here they will think it was a foreign country that did it because thats what they’ll be told.

    • “For, lo, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her: from thence she shall be taken: there arrows shall be as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain.” Russia is the largest nation by land mass. Canada is the second largest nation on earth by landmass with the smallest total population comparative to that land mass. “Come against her from the utmost border, open her storehouses: cast her up as heaps, and destroy her utterly: let nothing of her be left.” “Behold, a people shall come from the north, and a great nation, and many kings shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.”

  9. Don’t be duped!

    Look at the wording here…

    “according to Brzezinski. “What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?”

    The fact is… Muslims can’t coexist with communism… and communistic Afghanistan bumped heads with Islamic beliefs.

    The US, Iran and half the world supporting the Muslims in Afghanistan defeat communism was a twofold success.
    1) It halted the non-religious government, communism
    2) It helped move the religious government called Islam forward

    So the question of “What is most important” didn’t matter… cause both issues were being accomplished.

    Doubt what I say?

    Consider the events of 9/11… a multifold issue.

  10. War is piece!!!!!

    …. Isn’t it nice to see Obama brushing up on his reading? I’m glad he has this vacation to refresh himself with Brave New World. What a slap in the face to the people to buy that in public. Hahahaha. Oh u globalists…

  11. There will be no United States in a few years; our troops are just being deployed as Pretorian Guards for the NWO.

    So let us stop bashing America and use a long-lens camera for a reality check. Who are the leaders in D.C. who are compromising our sovereignty? Focus on those few, prosecute them, and dispatch their minions. Maybe they will cooperate and give real intelligence info on the oligarchs.

  12. The US created the Taliban like Al Gore created the internet!

    Fact is the Taliban has been around for over 130 years… an extension of the Mujahedeen… feared for their beheading tactics.

    Out of the Mujahedeen (struggle) came the Taliban (students)… out of the Taliban came Al Qaeda (The highly educated elite). All are Islamist militant groups.

    For officials to claim they “created” the Taliban, feeds their egos!

    They only started training and rearing up the modern day Taliban by funding them during the Afghan/Soviet war in the late 70’s.

    Ron Paul:
    “In the late 1970s and early 80s, the CIA was very involved in the training and funding of various fundamentalist Islamic groups in Afghanistan, some of which later became today’s brutal Taliban government. In fact, the U.S. government admits to giving the groups at least 6 billion dollars in military aid and weaponry, a staggering sum that would be even larger in today’s dollars.”

    Kurt Nimmo what looks like quoting Hank Brown:
    “The Taliban will probably develop like the Saudis. There will be Aramco [the consortium of oil corporations], pipelines, an emir, no parliament and lots of Sharia law. We can live with that,” said another U.S. diplomat in 1997 (see Timothy Mitchell, McJihad: Islam in the U.S. Global Order).

    Did ya see that? It says… “develop like the Saudis” and “Islam in the U.S. Global Order”

    But get this…

    The world ain’t gonna change to the US ways… even Americans can’t stand its own government.

    But you can believe the Global Order will incorporate the Islamic ways!

  13. yeah, i mean c’mon. they’ve been talking about ‘winding down’ these wars, what, a couple months after we started them? not happening, be realistic.

  14. Like they say, all the experts will tell you, when you invade a country or a planet, you come for the resources and kill off the indigenous population, who’s that? US and anyone else who lives in another country where they need the resources.

    • All the resources are being kept in Islamic hands… maybe protecting the resources from the rest of the world.

      Refer to China trading out resources in exchange for immediate, built up, operable cities.

      Everything is being centralized for the coming antichrist Islamic leader who will distribute the resources as needed per Cap and Trade or more commonly known as the Personal Identification system or the Mark of the Beast.

      Remember… the drug trade is being built up to feed the masses with the belief that the eventual cashless society will alleviate this ongoing problem in the world.

      In the mean time Mexico, Europe and Middle Eastern countries feed the drugs to capitalize on the profits which enable Islamic growth for positioning of its global governance.

  15. They’re gonna abandon them later on, say they can’t afford to bring them home right now and leave them over there to fend for themselves.
    IF was in the military, i’d go AWOL right freakin NOW!

  16. “In joining battle, seek the quick victory. If battle is protracted, your weapons will be blunted and your troops demoralized. If you lay siege to a walled city, you exhaust your strength. If your armies are kept in the field for a long time, your national reserves will not suffice. Where you have blunted your weapons, demoralized your troops, exhausted your strength and depleted all available resources, the neighboring rulers will take advantage of your adversity to strike. And even with the wisest of counsel, you will not be able to turn the ensuing consequences to the good. Thus in war, I have heard tell of a foolish haste, but I have yet to see a case of cleverly dragging on the hostilities. There has NEVER been a state that has benefited from an extended war. Hence, if one is not full cognizant of the evils of waging war, he cannot be fully cognizant either of how to turn it to best account.”
    Sun Tzu

    • “The expert in using the military does not conscript soldiers more than once or transport his provisions repeatedly from home. He carries his military equipment with him, and commandeers his provisions from the enemy. Thus he has what he needs to feed his army. A state is impoverished by its armies when it has to supply them at a great distance. To supply an army at a great distance is to impoverish one’s people. On the other hand, in the vicinity of the armies, the price of goods goes up. Where goods are expensive, you exhaust your resources, and once you have exhausted your resources, you will be forced to increase district exactions for the military. All your strength is spent on the battlefield, and the families on the home front are left destitute. The toll to the people will have been some 70 percent of their property; the toll to public coffers in terms of broken-down chariots and worn-out horses, body armor and helmets, crossbows and bolts halberds and bucklers, lances and sheilds, draft oxen and heavy supply wagons (all of this can be compared to modern technology and machinery) will be some 60 percent of its reserves. Therefore, the wise commander does his best to feed his army from enemy soil. To consume one measure of the the enemy’s provisions is equal to twenty of our own; to use up one bale of the enemy’s fodder is equal to twenty of our own. Hence, in war PRIZE THE QUICK VICTORY, NOT THE PROTRACTED ENGAGEMENT. Thus, the commander who understands war is the final arbiter of people’s lives, and lord over the security of the state.”
      Sun Tzu

    • The United States military has been purposely used up and sabotaged to leave the population defenseless at home. Even Alex has spoken of what “our military” consists of now. Foreigners, gang bangers, and people with low IQ. Russia didn’t have to go very far to try to take Afghanistan. America has gone halfway around the world to try secure the interests of the treasonous bastards that run this country. The people nor the soldiers will benefit from these extended engagements.

  17. Of course they plan to be there forever. It’s on the path of an oil pipeline. placeofrefuge2012.com

  18. FUCK THE SATANIC NEW WORLD ORDER!

    • That’s the spirit …

  19. Very soon all the US bases will become targets for revolutions no matter where they are! The USA is loosing the required manufacturing ability to support these long term wars not only that the quality of the hardware is falling see the F22 and F35 AH60 predator failures/debacles. The US has come second in all but the Grenada and Panama wars/invasions coming second is becoming a bit of a habit for the US military for all it’s technological so called superiority. Relying on increasingly expensive equipment that fails is not a strategy for superiority in war. The Anglo American establishment are busily painting themselves into a very small corner, these two nations will soon have revolusions at home to contend with, when these happen the military supplies to the forces will dry up! the inevitable defeat for these military adventures is becoming evident in so many ways.

  20. If they keep their troops in Afghanistan it means they need other proxies to do their dirty work in the middle east :

    Apparently the globalists are interested in coalescing Egypt, Al-CIAeda the PNA/Hamas, into a single task force, in order to:
    1. Adjust the Egyptian army with Al-CIAeda, which in turn may lead the state army in a war against Israel, much like the CIA leads the US army in AfPak and did in Somalia.
    2. Re-align Gaza with Egypt, with the former having been long affected by the Doghmush clan(the Gazan Al-CIAda) lately augmented by Libyan Al-CIAeda ‘rebels’.
    3. Squelch the PNA/Hamas while Assad is being undertaken by NATO.
    4. Better align Egypt with the Libyan Al-CIAeda ‘rebels’

    see our detailed analysis here:

    essential-intelligence-network.blogspot.com/2011/08/globalists-escalate-their.html

  21. “The Telegraph on Friday, reported that the U.S. and Afghanistan have reached an agreement that would allow American special forces and air force to remain in the country until 2024.”

    Shouldn’t that read: “U.S. and U.S. implanted Afganistan officials have reached an agreement…” Just saying?

  22. As long as any country has natural resources they are in danger of being invaded from this gov’t.

    • Syria

  23. Yea, because the’re is a lot of gold and opium to loot from them, so they plan to use the Afghan peasants as slave labor to exploit their resources. The people of Afghanistan have a history of getting rid of intruders and invaders and in the end they will prevail over the globalist armies of terror and resource exploitation. The Afghan people would rather die than allow their people to be used for the wall street corporate fascist slave trade.

    • Oh, there are a lot of minerals and resources up in there, and it goes like this:

      U.S. Identifies Vast Mineral Riches in Afghanistan

      By JAMES RISEN
      Published: June 13, 2010

      “WASHINGTON — The United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself, according to senior American government officials.

      The previously unknown deposits — including huge veins of iron, copper, cobalt, gold and critical industrial metals like lithium — are so big and include so many minerals that are essential to modern industry that Afghanistan could eventually be transformed into one of the most important mining centers in the world, the United States officials believe.”

      htt*://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html

      * = p

      • Leonard, good info brother, only thing RISEN left out was the opium although its not a mineral its one helluva cash crop.

        • Yeah, lot of dopes … that is why they put a lot of dopes in prison for the drugs our own government and banks launder … how do you think Bill Hillary got into power?

  24. We will be in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Middle East in general Forever because that is what our

    Israeli masters want….. End of discussion….. What I want to know is this…. We are told

    ad nauseum that Israel is our only ally in the Mid East….If that is the case why are their soldiers

    not on the front lines fighting for “freedom and democracy” against the evil Taliban in

    Afghanistan? Like the Bible, Israel is a LIE…. The Arabs and Persians have never been our

    enemies…. Our only enemy is Israel… If you don’t believe that ask the survivers of the USS

    Liberty…. Peace out..

  25. yes, it IS the wicked witch of the west..

    poppies… paawpeeezz…

  26. They’ll be out back as soon as Paul makes the Whitehouse

    • keep the delusion going

  27. As if in 2024 Afghanistan, and the U.S. will be sovereign nations. We can only hope so!

    The Banksters are gunna keep running their Opium Cash Cow out of Afghanistan for the foreseeable future, and that is just one of many reasons why the entire Anglo/American establishment is quite concerned about Ron Paul. If Paul gets elected and brings our troops home, the Chi Coms and their triads will corner the global heroin trade. How ironic that would be if China the country that was terribly victimized by the British Crown during the original the Opium Wars, was to finally get their revenge against the Anglo/American establishment.

    The Revenge of the Red Dragon:

    Payback, it’s a Beast!

  28. In my opinion they want to keep control of the poppy fields.

  29. We will leave long before 2024. When Ron Paul wins we will bring our forces home.

  30. just a bunch of twisted old men- with a gang of dick head cops to protect them.
    *vomit!

    • To bad they have the destructive weapons in their hands, huh?

  31. There won’t be a 2024.

    • You could be onto something there, rabid robert.

    • hell, there might not be a 2013

      • … no shit, roaddog6.

  32. Of course they do, you do not build an empire by leaving the country after you have conquered it. Afghanistan, Iraq, they are but spots on the chessboard for the ultimate domination and of the Middle East.

    Veritas vos Liberabit

  33. Yeah right. I’ll put money on the fact that the US will not be leaving in 2024 either — they’ll do something to justify their continued occupation.

    • There is still that loose nuke off that B-52 somewhere in this country or close by …

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