Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers?

Chuck Baldwin
ChuckBaldwinLive.com
September 15, 2011

I’ve been an evangelical Christian since I was a child. I’ve been in the Gospel ministry all of my adult life. I attended two evangelical Christian colleges, received honorary degrees from two others, and taught and preached in several others. I’ve attended many of the largest evangelical pastors’ gatherings and have been privileged to speak at Christian gatherings–large and small–all over America. I have been part of the inner workings of evangelical ministry for nearly 40 years. I think I learned a thing or two about evangelical/fundamentalist Christianity in America. And I’m here to tell you: I don’t like what I see happening these days!

Let’s get this straight right out of the gate: nothing touched by man can be perfect, because none of us is perfect. There is no perfect church, perfect school, perfect mission board, perfect Sunday School class, perfect pastor, perfect deacon, or perfect Christian. Until the afterlife, we are all yet encased in Adamic flesh, complete with human weaknesses and imperfections. And only the Pharisaical among us are too proud to admit it.

That said, I do think it is more than fair to say that, historically, Christians have always attempted to be–and have always publicly taught the importance of being–peacemakers. Historically, Christians have preached–and tried to practice–love and brotherhood. The early church was born in a baptism of love and unity. Oh sure, there were always individual misunderstandings and differences, but, on the whole, the church was a loving, caring, compassionate ecclesia.

Mind you, Christians historically were not afraid or ashamed to defend themselves, their families, and their country. The Lord Jesus, Himself (the Prince of Peace), allowed His disciples to carry personal defense weapons (see Luke 22:36,38). Yes, while some Christian sects were conscientious pacifists, these were the exception, not the rule. The vast majority of Christian believers understood the Biblical, Natural Law principle of self-defense. But believing in the right of lawful, God-ordained self-defense was never to be confused with warmongering.

So, what has happened to turn the most peace-loving institution the world has ever known (the New Testament church) into the biggest cheerleaders for war? I’m talking about un-provoked, illegal, unconstitutional, unbiblical–even secret–wars of aggression. The biggest cheerleaders for the unprovoked, unconstitutional, pre-emptive attack and invasion of Iraq were evangelical Christians. Ditto for the war in Afghanistan, the bombing of Libya, the attacks in Yemen, etc. Who is calling for the bombing of Iran? Evangelical Christians. Who cheers for sending more and more troops all over the world to maim and kill more and more people (including innocents)? Evangelical Christians. Shoot (pun intended)! Most evangelical Christians didn’t even bat an eye when the federal government sent military and police personnel to murder American citizens, including old men, women, and children–Christian old men, women, and children, no less–outside Waco, Texas.

And where are today’s evangelical Christians giving a second thought regarding their fellow Christian brothers and sisters in many of these Middle Eastern countries that are being persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, and killed by the puppet regimes being put in power by the US government–at US taxpayer (including Christian taxpayer) expense? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but more Christians have been persecuted under the US-imposed regime in Iraq than were ever persecuted when Saddam Hussein was in power. Oh! And don’t forget that it was the US government that was responsible for putting Saddam Hussein in power to begin with. The US government set up Osama bin Laden, too. But I digress.

In addition to the “white” wars (the ones everyone knows about), the US government authorizes some 70 black ops commando raids in some 120 countries EVERY DAY. In fact, the secret, black ops military of the US is so large today it now totals more personnel than the ENTIRE MILITARY OF CANADA!

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A recent report noted, “In 120 countries across the globe, troops from Special Operations Command carry out their secret war of high-profile assassinations, low-level targeted killings, capture/kidnap operations, kick-down-the-door night raids, joint operations with foreign forces, and training missions with indigenous partners as part of a shadowy conflict unknown to most Americans. Once ‘special’ for being small, lean, outsider outfits, today they are special for their power, access, influence, and aura.”

To see the complete report of America’s secret wars, go to:

http://tinyurl.com/3q7s335

Yet, how much of this knowledge would even faze the average evangelical Christian today? All we hear from today’s “churches” is “bomb,” “attack,” “wipe them out,” etc. Then, at the same time, they get all emotional about sending missionaries to the same countries that they had just cheered-on the US military in raining down missiles of death and destruction upon (to bring salvation to the lucky ones that weren’t killed, I suppose).

And who are the ones that belittle and impugn Ron Paul? Evangelical Christians. Why? Because he tells the truth about America’s foreign policy being responsible for much of the hatred and bitterness erupting in foreign countries against us. I guarantee you that many of the “conservative” Republicans who booed Dr. Paul’s comments to this regard at the GOP Presidential debate this week would identify themselves as evangelical Christians.

See the report at:

http://tinyurl.com/3otfnzr

The disciples of our Lord were called “Christians” first by the Gentiles of Antioch, because of the manner in which the disciples reminded them of Christ’s nature and teachings. I never thought I would hear myself say what I’m about to say, but the truth is, the term “Christian” today means anything but Christ-like. To many people today, “Christian” refers to some warmongering, mean-spirited, throw-anyone-to-the-wolves-who-crosses-them person, who then has the audacity to look down their nose in contempt against anyone who disagrees with them for even the smallest reason. And the word “church” has the stigma of being simply an enclave of warmongers to many people today. And that, my friends, is one reason so many people are so turned off with today’s Christianity. And I can’t say that I blame them. I’m turned off too!

Am I a pacifist? Absolutely not! Do I believe an individual, a family, a community, or a nation has the right to protect and defend itself? I absolutely do! And the fellow who breaks into my home or who attacks my loved ones will personally discover I believe that! But this blind support for illegal, immoral, unconstitutional war is anything but Christian. Not only is it turning people against our country among people abroad, it is turning our own countrymen against the Christ we Christians claim to love right here at home.

I dare say that the modern Warfare State would grind to a screeching halt tomorrow if evangelical Christians would simply stop supporting it! And the thing that most evangelical Christians fail to realize is that the Warfare State is one of the primary tools that the evil one is using to usher in his devilish New World Order that even babes in Christ know to be of Satan. Hence, Christians are helping to promote the very thing that Satan, himself, is using to enslave them.

Yes, I’ve been an evangelical Christian for most of my life and an evangelical pastor for all of my adult life. And if we Christians do not quickly repent of this bloodlust that seems to dominate evangelical Christianity today (spiritually and militarily), the word that was first used by un-churched Gentiles to describe Christ’s followers will be used as a curse-word to describe those who facilitated the ruination of our country.






 
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  1. Of course, onward Christian soldiers

    If you don’t “believe” this Christian crap, you were burnt at the stake, beheaded, screwed small children etc
    people cheer at some person’s death in a coma, yet complain grandma is going to die by death panels and abortion is a sin, yet cheer again the 234 executions

    violent horrible religion

    • I’ve read the Bible over and over, and I never could find the part that said I had to say with my mouth that Jesus Christ is my lord and savior, or else I am not a Christian.

      I always showed up to church on time, never took more food than was offered, never asked anything from any of them, but when I refused to say “Jesus Christ is my lord and savior” their eyes turned red and they became angry. Their fury and resentment was the most evil thing I had ever witnessed. I was treated as a second class human.

      I always found this ironic, because it seemed so counter intuitive to Christ’s teachings. It has to do with power and control. The pastors feel powerless when they can’t train their sheep to BAHH.

      God Bless them.

  2. “The Hebrews, too, preserved an enduring memory of Yahweh’s battle against a dragon of the deep, marked by lightning on a cosmic scale. “The voice of thy thunder was in the heaven: the lightnings lightened the world: the earth trembled and shook”. Here the adversary was alternately named Rahab, Leviathan, Tannin, or Behemoth–dragon-like forms representing both the waters of chaos and the rebellion of the “evil land” vanquished by Yahweh in primeval times.

    The battle is echoed in Job 26: “The pillars of heaven shook and were astounded at his roar. By his power he stilled the sea, and by his understanding he smote Rahab”. It is also well established that the Hebrew accounts reflect a connection to early Canaanite traditions in which the thunderbolt-wielding god Baal defeated the monster Lotan.”.

    “Every culture recalled the ancient combat between a great warrior and a monster whose attack threatened to destroy the world. How did the story of a heaven-altering contest find its way into so many cultures”

    • thunder bolts.info/tpod/2004/arch/041012cosmic-thunderbolt-4.htm

  3. CHUCK BALDWIN NAILS THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIGHT ON…………… I WILL SEND THIS A LOT OF CHURCHES, LET THEM READ IT, IF THEY DO NOT REPENT OF SUPPORTING MURDER, LET THEM GO TO HELL……………….dino from wis.

    • Hell is a bit extreme. I think an everlasting shame (last chapter Daniel) would suffice. Me? I would just feel thankful to God for saving me. That’s more than enough.

  4. THE GRAND FINALE….. (drumroll)

    #79 Fellowship is a commandment. You can’t get saved by seeking God yourself, you need a theologically “sound” politically correct approved “middle man” aka “pastor”. Otherwise, you are a “lone ranger” and cannot be saved.
    IF YOU DO NOT GO TO CHURCH, YOU ARE GOING TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!

    We must interpet the Bible for you, cause you’ll screw it up, and won’t interpet it right. The more church attendance you have, and service, the more likely you’ll be saved.

    Assuming your fellowship references are in order…..

  5. BUT EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN ARE WAR MONGERS!!

    THE GLOBAL EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN HAS BOUGHT INTO THE LIE THAT JEWS ARE THE REAL ISRAELITES.

    AMERICANS CHRISTIANS OF ALL RACES ARE THE REAL ISRAELITES, AND TOO BAD WE BOUGHT INTO THE LIE THAT WE ARE INFERIOR TO JEWS.

    REMEMBER:

    Revelation 3:9

    NIV

    “I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars–I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.”

    • Now “American Christians” are Israelites? Is this that whole Caucuses mountains deal? I though in Christ the flesh became irrelevant….. as all was forgiven at that point and made pure again, washed in the blood of Christ.
      “Though your sins be as scarlet….” etc.

      my bad….

  6. Banksters want to model the whole world after the banana republic type social order like united states or Britain where working people are treated as workhorse type creatures to make the bare minimum for themselves and pay taxes. That’s why they invaded Libya because they didn’t like how it was modeled where peoples interest were preferred over handful of financial terrorists. western news reporters are used to go to a third world country like Bangladesh or Sri Lanka and bash them for having poor streets or poor sewage system as opposed to some middle eastern countries like Dubai where things look so shiny. but they are hiding the truths. most of Dubai’s financial institutions, corporations, investments are owned by the west and its built on slave labor from poor south Asian countries. vast majority of Dubai’s labor class don’t enjoy good living standard. people should never trust what they hear or even see in the mainstream western media. the reason western journalists who are never free to say what they want paints a bad picture of other smaller nations is for propaganda. In reality, poor people in countries that have astronomically huge defense budget like France, US, Britain have a difficult life. they work two jobs to support their family if they can afford to have one, they do pay taxes but it’s not sufficient to guarantee a secure retirement, they cannot afford higher education, they cannot afford a home and end up living in slum like neighborhoods with roaches and rodents. If a working man buys a home he will go to his grave without paying off the mortgage and won’t be able to pass it on to his children. western media won’t cover these things. they never go to Scandinavia and cover their good health care system and living standard. they would rather go to the dirtiest street in Calcutta or Dhaka and act so arrogant and use it for propaganda in order to hide the hardship among the average Americans. people should not be fooled by highways, or skyscrapers or Hollywood. it doesn’t say a lot about our life and harsh realities beneath it. poor people in other parts of the world might not look so polished but they don’t have to live in a lot of fear like us and be burdened with interests, taxes and high living costs. that’s why the banksters want to model the whole world after US or Britain as fast as possible.

    • Try using more paragraphs, it’s easier to read. Your post made me cross eyed…. lol

      • You actually read it??

        • Lol rabid- I honestly fuckin tried…. couldn’t quite grasp it.

        • Ok, I ponied up the effort and read it. Now i’m exhausted. I agree with most of what he said. Except for the last part about the model, completely. I think it’s accurate, short the fact that they will turn the sheeple of America and Britain into glorified thankful serfs first, then model everyone in suit.

    • You make a very good point about the poor in the United States having a large burden compared to the poor in other countries. A lot of Americans haven’t traveled and so they are very bought into the greatest nation on Earth thing. I have traveled by foot, car, or train through 13 countries and in each country I have found great things. I’ve flown through more, but honestly, flying through airports doesn’t mean anything because you’ve never really left the corporate strongholds.

      What the world sees in movies and on TV about the United States is not reality. The truth is that the wealthy are ruthless and cutthroat. If you want to be wealthy, you have to do the same. And it really isn’t fun being a selfish dick all the time. Most of the wealthy people you’ll meet in the United States are some of the least interesting people in the world. Some wealthy people are fascinating, but they are older and are from a different generation.

      Today’s nouveau riche are quite frankly, the most self-absorbed people I’ve run across… and I am unfortunately, around them all the time.

  7. Witnessing to an “evil-vangelical” can be more challenging than witnessing to a hardened Jihadist. The rigid indoctrination triple reinforced “3-ply”: 501c3 temple matrix/ msm matrix /family history military patriotism matrix.
    The triangulation of brainwashing sealing air tight a complete drone of the western hemisphere/paradigm. Their belief system is basically as follows:

    #1 They are “saved”, everyone else is not.

    #2 They know “the truth”(Jesus), and you do not.

    #3 Muslims are evil, the mistake of Abraham, and they are the enemy.

    #4 They believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, despite the clear teaching of Christ in Matthew 24.

    #5 They think those who question the government are just “conspiracy theorists”.

    #6 They believe it is our duty to kill people, whoever and whenever the government says to.

    #7 They believe it is wrong to disobey the government, for any reason.

    #8 They believe the Bible teaches that you have to give at least 10% of your money to Church.

    #9 They believe, that if you don’t attend church on Sunday, your not a real Christian.

    #10 They think it is their job, to save you- and everyone else.

    #11 They probably voted for George Bush jr., and Senior, because they are “republicans” lol

    #12 They think that if you don’t have a decent credit score, you are probably not a good Christian.

    #13 They think that if you are not married, with 2.5 children, a white picket fence, and a dog named “spot”, you are probably not a good Christian.

    #14 If you question the msm, you are “disrespecting those who served”, and the victims families and those who died on 911.

    #15 To be a servant of God, or teacher, you must attend a corporate, government approved theologically/politically correct seminary, and receive a certificate from them.

    #16 Halloween is “bad”, Christmas and Easter are “good”.

    #17 It’s not ok to question the pastor.

    #18 You ARE there, to sit in the pew obediently and be preached too every week. If you don’t, you have “issues with authority”.

    #19 Alex Jones is a four letter word, and the son of the devil.

    #20 You are expected to vote, and for a mainstream “conservative” candidate, like Perry. Romney is a Mormon, so you’ll be chastised if you vote for him.

    #21 911 was Arabs with box cutters, and we “liberate” nations

    #22 America’s lapse into wickedness, is the fault of the “rabble”, and the “left”.

    #23 Jesus IS GOD- not God’s son, and apparently sent himself to speak his own word.

    #24 The “Passion of the Christ” was too graphic, and Mel Gibson is a hypocrite. Of course, they themselves are good. lol

    • “evil-vangelical” (continued)

      #25 The Vatican/Catholic church is now in vogue, and it’s stylish to fawn over the Pope, and bad to judge or speak of molestations, or historical crimes dating 1700 years.

      #26 It’s in vogue to fawn over the Royals.

      #27 Jesse Ventura IS THE DEVIL! And so was Adam’s girlfriend in “The Waterboy”.

      #28 It is “God’s will” for world peace we join the ecumenical movement (participating churches)

      #29 To get saved, you have to have the right theology.

      #30 Being a good person, has NOTHING AT ALL to do with being saved.

      #31 You can tell someone is saved, if they wear a nice clean suit, shiny shoes, say nice sounding non controversial things, and have perfect white beautiful teeth in a perma-grin like Joel Osteen.

      #32 You can also tell someone is saved, if God has blessed their finances.

      #33 Your probably poor cause your not tithing or offering enough.

      #34 Your miracle is “right around the corner”…..

      #35 It’s not Christian, unless there is a DVD series with a “new message” on sale…..

      #36 Ron Wyatt was debunked, I’m pretty sure….. so was 911 truth…..

      #37 Despite the fact they claim to be “Christian”, they still acknowledge the existence of a “natural world”….

      #38 The Bohemian Grove is just frat boys blowing off steam….. no biggie

      #39 Hippies were bad

      #40 Elvis is ok now, in light of Marylin Manson

      #41 Though we haven’t even made the local newspaper since 1973, we are somehow still a “true church” of God.

      #42 Not even ONE OF US has been to jail this month, and somehow, we are “real Christians”

      #43 Seal team 6 killed Bin Laden

      #44 I have never watched “The Hunting Party”.

      #45 The government is trying to fix the economy, but the “left” is messing things up.

      #46 Hannity, Rush, O’Reilly are “center right” populists.

      #47 “Council on Foreign Relations”? I think iv’e heard of that, somewhere….

      #48 “Bilderberg”? What’s that, a burger joint?

      • “evil-vangelical” (continued)

        #49 Ron Paul is not good enough, because of one or more “issues”.

        #50 Ron Paul is bad, because he believes in giving people the right to CHOOSE THAT WHICH IS GOOD- Just like God.

        #51 The Branch Davidians were cultists, that’s why God wouldn’t protect them, like us.

        #52 What happened at Ruby ridge was tragic, yet again, not our problem and best laid to rest.

        #53 The founding fathers were all good Christians, modern militias are “terrorists” and anti government extremists.

        #54 There is no life in the universe, unless the government tells us there is. Then, we will consider it.

        #55 Aliens are all “demonic”.

        #56 There’s no such thing as ghosts. Just demonic entities.

        #57 There is a literal devil. Just not here, not now.

        #58 People who report Sasquatch, UFO’s, or anything else that I don’t like are just delusional or miss identifying things.

        #59 There will be a 4th beast of Revelation, but that’s later. And before anything bad happens well be raptured out anyways, so don’t worry about it. Just work and pay your taxes.

        #60 Gordon Kahl and Ed Brown disobeyed Gods commandments.

        #61 Mormons and Jehovah witnesses are deluded and deceived, unlike us.

        #62 The 501c3 is NOT compromise, or “hush money”.

        #63 The Sabbath don’t matter anymore.

        #64 Other nations are heathen.

        #65 A bump in my credit, waiting for my latte, and anyone saying anything negative about me is “suffering for Christ” and enduring persecutions.

        #66 We have to praise and worship first, that’s the format.

        #67 God approves of full time pastors, who make a comfortable living “preaching” on Sunday.

        • #68 There is no such thing as “pre destination”. In fact, the omniscient omnipotent All mighty has little, or no idea what your made of, where you really belong, let alone where you’ll end up.
          In fact, the All mighty is pretty much clueless holding a wrinkled map….

          #69 Lame boring music is “Christian”, rock n roll is probably evil all together.

          #70 There is alot more to being saved than calling on the Lord and repenting of your sins, and asking forgiveness with a humble heart and sincerity.

          #71 Your not saved unless your water baptized?

          #72 The lord is no respecter of persons, but he favors us over others….

          #73 It’s not ok to give flattering titles to men, unless your in church.

          #74 I’m considering branching into the “Paulean” discipleship, if the grass is green enough….. oops! I mean, “if the Lord wills”…. lol

          #75 Jesus ministry was family centered….

          #76 Jesus probably did have a fishing license….

          #77 Jesus nullified the sabbath by picking corn…..

          #78 We know pretty much EVERYTHING about “God”, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. It’s in the doctrinal statement.

  8. THIS CHRISTIAN SAYS;

    FUCK THE JEWS!

    • FUCK THE JEWS!

      • Black/white? The black/white Masonic tiles of Masonry are tied to the ancient Greek Goddess “Hell”, who one side of her body was white, the other black. You on the other hand, seem slightly less sophisticated…

    • Who lied to you and told you that you were a Christian??

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