Police Chief Confirms Detaining Photographers

Greggory Moore
Long Beach Post
August 18, 2011

Editor’s note: Long Beach cops to decide what is art and what is terrorism.

Police Chief Jim McDonnell has confirmed that detaining photographers for taking pictures “with no apparent esthetic value” is within Long Beach Police Department policy.

McDonnell spoke for a follow-up story on a June 30 incident in which Sander Roscoe Wolff, a Long Beach resident and regular contributor to Long Beach Post, was detained by Officer Asif Kahn for taking pictures of
a North Long Beach refinery.

“If an officer sees someone taking pictures of something like a refinery,” says McDonnell, “it is incumbent upon the officer to make contact with the individual.” McDonnell went on to say that whether said contact becomes detainment depends on the circumstances the officer encounters.

McDonnell says that while there is no police training specific to determining whether a photographer’s subject has “apparent esthetic value,” officers make such judgments “based on their overall training and experience” and will generally approach photographers not engaging in “regular tourist behavior.”

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37 Responses to “Police Chief Confirms Detaining Photographers”

  1. Next thing you know, they will be like North Korea in that you can’t take a slanted/crooked picture of Lil’ Kim or you will get arrested. Dear Leader will be coming to a U.S. city near you. Just imagine, you take a picture of Obama and get arrested. “Why am I arrested, officer?” “You didn’t take a picture of him correctly. You only showed his body. I can tell you were spying on what he is wearing and to find out if he has anything in his pockets. Normal people take a picture of his fake, happy face, so you must be a terrorist.”

    Yes, this is what the police state of America will be coming to unless we put an end to it all.

  2. This is a Private Corporation period; they [police] are not anything but glorified Security Guards. It is time the people wake up and take their communities back from the thugs with badges. These guys have no more authority then you and I. Once you figure that out and quit putting them on another plain the sooner we will gain control of the situation. Not only in California but the other forty-nine. As for the Fed’s they have no Police power within the state. These, Police departments, are a Tenth amendment privilege delegation to the States. Today you have no state constitution[s] for they all are now statutory law or under legislative control. Time to bring back constitutional government and law and throw the bastards out on their ass and re-establish a de-jure department of Police.
    Ca is the Federal State of the United States not one of “The United States of America” or the republic. Now you folks have some sheriff wanting to divide California, hell just enforce the 1849 organic constitution. What a new Federal [territory] state of North and South California with Federal State constitutions a democracy, you have the Law but not the guts to enforce it. Ca Codes are ‘color of law’ sue them under their own Ca code for ‘color of law’ actions it is worth 25 grand to you Ca Civil code 52.1, continue with 52.3.

    CALIFORNIA CODES
    GOVERNMENT CODE
    SECTION 54950.
    In enacting this chapter, the Legislature finds and declares that the public commissions, boards and councils and the other public agencies in this State exist to aid in the conduct of the people’s business. It is the intent of the law that their actions be taken openly and that their deliberations be conducted openly.
    The people of this State do not yield their sovereignty to the agencies, which serve them. The people, in delegating authority, do not give their public servants the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know. The people insist on remaining informed so that they may retain control over the instruments they have created.

    X Calfornian

  3. If I was in law enforcement, I would resign. They have played god with people human rights and civil rights. What’s worse, they have often times killed tortured souls who are only a danger to themselves and nobody else. The United States government praises law enforcement for killing perpetrators. The devils love company and those at the highest level of the United States government are guilty of exactly the same crimes as Stalin and Hitler.

    Using fear, intimidation, violence and possible death is no way to run a country. The psychologists who developed enhanced interrogation techniques to torture prisoners are going to hell. You cannot escape your judgment, it’s self imposed by an invisible book of life that sees everything.

    I have been truly ashamed of the United States since 2005. The devils running this country want to drag everyone down with them on their way to hell. It’s not working. There is a god, it’s just not the one they were promised.

  4. Go take photos of the slums in Detroit and i bet the cops wouldn’t care. Then go w/in a few miles of a Federal Reserve with a camera and you will be swarmed w/ badges. Just enforcing the laws for the rich and powerful

  5. You all need to check out this video I did on Youtube it will inspire you greatly. Enjoy the video and make copies and feel free to hand out the video to people if you want.

    The video I did today is called:

    OPERATION END SARNIA POLICE CORRUPTION PROTEST

    Here is the link below:

    /watch?v=4bFtCmgnhgo

  6. The end is near

  7. In the first place, it’s none of the cops damn business why someone would choose to photograph a refinery. If a reason MUST be given to the STATE, how about ” I just wanted a picture of this magnificent example of engineering”?

  8. It’s also worth noting that there are legal remedies for which to better facilitate the dancing of said Departments and individuals. See
    CALIFORNIA CODES
    CIVIL CODE
    SECTION 3294-3296 ,
    Or for the Penal Code try this FUN ONE!
    CALIFORNIA CODES
    PENAL CODE
    SECTION 207-210
    Oh but wait there’s more!
    CALIFORNIA CODES
    PENAL CODE
    SECTION 528-539
    You get the idea people. Beat these idiots up with paper and stand up for your rights damnit. Anything else but standing up and defending yourself through proper channels is just hollow words falling on deaf ears. Make politics, make them listen, MAKE them enforce their own laws… Our Laws.

  9. For anyone who has even a layman’s knowledge of statutory law, civil or criminal, this should be disturbing. Not only is it blatant that Fed programming has affected these ‘administrative law’ enforcers, but that through these cases the individual state, and others by proxy, are building their record against the most basic freedoms protected by our founding constitution. These types of cases bring a small tear of joy to any Fabian Socialist’s eye for they set the framework and incremental law basis for future expanses of assumed power, irregardless of the actual Session Law and State Constitutions. Never Mind you the U.S Constitution.

  10. California has had NAZIS forever in power. Nothing surprises me about Californiacation. I am native California, and I wouldn’t live in that shit hole State, drug infested gang banging and murdering Nazis (Law enforcement Departments). Right now, I rank them #2 behind Nevada.

  11. Jeez! I read the comments at the bottom of the actual Long Beach Post article. I can’t believe how many people think that cops determining what is and isn’t art is a GOOD thing!

    Where’s that blood pressure medicine?!

  12. We just had an incident where I live where the police tried to sue someone for videotaping them beating the crap out of someone.

    The police stated no one has the right to videotape them ………yeah right…….who’s watching the watchers

  13. Why are cops getting killed again? OH YEAH!!!!!

  14. Making up laws has nothing to do with enforcing laws, Chief. Congresses create laws. You enforce them. Based upon your years of experience, is that too complicated for you?

    • When you enforce tyranny, YOU ARE TYRANNY. Ever heard of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?

      • You need some strong coffee.

  15. It’s all just a scam; another reason to oppress Amerikans.

  16. “FRESH CAUSTIC”

    THAT is DEFINITELY art !

    .

  17. Will they be nice enough to define “regular tourist behavior” before we are all behind bars?

    To be arrested for the crime of photography! Does anyone see a good side to all this fascist behavior.

    .

  18. Soviet style “free press” again

  19. My suggestion on photographing a refinery: Take a bottle of oil, put it in the foreground, frame the shot and snap the picture. That way it becomes an educational / photojournalist / esthetic work of art.

  20. One more example of Amerikan FreeDumb.

    In this case, there is no actual law, but a POLICY that justifies their tyranny.

    Cameras are a powerful weapons of mass enlightenment. That’s why the MIAC Report and Homeland Security Report specifically mentioned that any photographer could be a “terrrorist”, and should be approached with caution. (especially if they have a Ron Paul bumpersticker)

    In a world full of lies, any device that is capable of capturing the truth is a very big threat to the establishment.

  21. Stupid fucking pig traitors.

  22. i used to live in Long Beach a long time ago, Im glad i left the city, it aint What it used to be,The mayority of the population in Long beach are black and hispanic gangbangers,Discusting,The cops are scumbags down there due to the fact that mayority of the population in LB are wasties,Immigrants also turned it into a fucking mercado.

  23. You used to be American citizens – But you are now subjects of a Nazi police state. USSA – get used to it OR – DO THE RIGHT THING AND REVOLT AGAINST THE OPPRESSORS. It is actually commanded of you by the founders of this nation to fight against an unjust oppressor……..either that or go slavishly and in a cowardly manner just like the fucking boot licking Germans did in 1933 – 45………………..

    • If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. – Samuel Adams

  24. HEY LONG BEACH POLICE CHIEF…. YOU SIR ARE A NAZI!!!!! AND IF U DIDN’T KNOW THAT ALREADY JUST COMPARE WAT THE NAZIS DID TO WAT YOU ARE DOING.. O….OH…..OOOOHH SAME TACTICS!

  25. I wonder what these mentally deranged clowns come up with next. “Sir you’re under arrest!”
    But why officer? You looked at me and I could sense that you were planning to attack me.
    200 bucks or I’ll take you in.

  26. Honestly, all this under the DHS protocol is getting ridiculous. It should be more apparent to the sheeple, that all this was caused by the impetus of 911, a manufactured terror event, to propel the police into an even more oppressive and persecutorial role in our lives , making even the slightest move in public open to police contact and then scrutiny, and having to explain your presence or activity in that area, because a “police officer” feels it is out of place. Friggin ridiculous. RESIST at all levels and every encounter.

  27. I am a photographer and once took a picture of a nuke reator in PA. I am glad no police saw me or I might still be in jail. Guess I just confessed… I will be here waiting for my arrest with my weapon… my camera.

    • reactor…

  28. I wonder why he really stopped those photographers?

    • Fear generates fear! He may have fined them to make some cash for the office!

  29. I told you on this forum about riding your bike on Sunday in Florida is prohibited by the old blue laws on the books in some counties!

    Numb scull law about photographing though, because everything in Florida is Aesthetic!

  30. I can’t tell you what police overstepping thier athourity is but I know it when I see It. and boy do I see it here.

  31. Just another scumbag degenerate in a costume that thinks he rules the world.

    click on my name for more about these mentally deficient thugs that think they own you and your children.

  32. As a local government administrator myself, I would fire the Police Chief for such behavior. Some of us in local government know and understand the issues and events surrounding the NWO, but conduct ourselves and our organizations in a Constitutionally correct manner. I’m ready to head for the hills, getting all my things together, because things are not going to get better.

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