Autistic man with toy gun killed by Miami police officers

Eric W. Dolan
Raw Story
Friday, September 2, 2011

North Miami Beach police officers shot and killed Ernest Vassell, a 57-year-old autistic man, on Wednesday after responding to calls about a man seen walking with a rifle. But the gun was later determined to be a realistic-looking toy.

The officers said Vassell refused orders to drop the “weapon,” and was shot after turning around and facing the police.

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81 Responses to “Autistic man with toy gun killed by Miami police officers”

  1. this country is going down the toilet because of stupid people. It was stupid people who didnt know what the 2nd ammendment was and called into the police station to complain. I blame the idiot public in general, and the also the public school system which has turned out iditos

  2. US Constitution

    2nd amendment – “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Florida Constitution

    Section 8. – “Right to Bear Arms. The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law. ”

    Is there ANYONE who can read English who doubts that it is LEGAL to walk down the streets of Florida with a REAL rifle, let alone a fake?

    • I think I may be wrong here. Florida law seems to suggest that Floridians have no gun rights at all!

      790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—(1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.
      (2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense:
      (a) A self-defense chemical spray.
      (b) A nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes.
      (3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

      And here is a good one,

      790.29 Paramilitary training; teaching or participation prohibited.—(1) This act shall be known and may be cited as the “State Antiparamilitary Training Act.”

      It exempts cops, justices, judges, and other government agencies.

      After looking at FL laws, I say LEAVE FLORIDA!

    • Based on your section 8…which differs from the 2nd, I must say this.

      You have the right to bear arms…in the case of defence! That’s the english stated. You can carry to defend. It does NOT say you can carry for the sake of carrying, only when defending.

      “except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.” That says that the state can regulate this law by the way. The manner is regulated, so you may not be able to just carry it.

      So thank you for showing me right.

      • What????

        If you carry “for self defense” it’s okay, but if it’s not for “self defense” than it’s not okay? How do you determine if someone is carrying for “self defense?” Two minutes before you are needing your gun for self defense, could you not be accused of “carrying for the sake of carrying?” How would you defend that accusation, up until two minutes before you are actually using it for self defense?

        That makes no sense.

        However, if you read further, I did put up the FL law up, and you are right, the IDIOT SCUM in Florida have passed laws that allow cops to murder you for having a gun in public or train to defend yourself against government.

  3. After spending a day shooting with these gun-toters I can understand why they tell them to shoot for “center mass”
    90% of these bastards couldn’t hit an arm or a leg if their lives depended on it..
    My 16 year old son has better scores than they do because …
    Tah-dah!!!
    I taught his ass to shoot!
    One shot one kill..
    they go out to the range and shoot with us on the same firing line and are all over the target..
    Joe is 47 rounds in the center and 3 in the head every time!
    He hits Hands,legs,ass. and they are lucky to get 50 rounds in the target area..

    • cool story, bro

  4. READ BARONS posting,
    There is where the real problem lies !
    Police have no idea who their people are and they just assume that the “Brotherhood” will protect them when they “Oops,I fucked up!”
    If carrying a gun is illegal ,when did it become so?
    Oh yeah right after people got tired of crooked cops acting like fucking hit men for their mafia bosses..
    Sorry I forgot!

  5. What a crappy job being a police spokesperson in charge of cleaning up these messes would be. There’s no way they believe half of what they say, the soulless bastards will say anything to keep their income and pension. And if the ‘toy gun’ was so realistic why do they feel the need to prevent the public from seeing it?? Gotta love govt transparency …. Smh

  6. What ever happened shooting in the arm, shoulder, leg or a warning shot? Now, it’s shoot to kill. How many mentally challenged people need to be abused or killed?

    • The bigger question, “What ever happen to not shooting people who are legally carrying firearms in public?”

      It is PERFECTLY LEGAL to walk down the street with a rifle in your hands. The cops said, “drop the weapon,” and the guy instead turns around to see who is yelling at him, and gets blown away? Why? Because he had a toy rifle? Even if it were real, why? Did he raise the weapon and point it at the cops? I didn’t hear that in the story, so I’m guessin’ he simply turned around to see who was yelling at him, and they shot him. Even though, they know damn well, there is no law against having a rifle on the streets of Florida.

      Our cops are becoming a bunch of poorly trained, paranoid, ex-military, PTSD’d, pill poppin,’ roid freaks who still think they are still in Iraq and that we, the people, are a bunch Iraqi’s stuck in their occupation of our country! Worst part about it, is that mentality allows them to hold themselves above the law, and operate under policies that have nothing to do with the law.

    • Watch more TV or movies if this is your policy, but shooting to wound doesn’t exist in real life.

  7. So if I’m carrying a rifle then I’m doing something bad right? The cops had NO RIGHT to tell him to drop his rifle!! There wasn’t a freaking crime committed! He wasn’t a robbery suspect or something! Just a guy walking down the street with a rifle. THIS IS 100% LEGAL according to the 2nd amendment. I saw some kids in my neighborhood the other day with airsoft AR-15s running around playing. OMG I should have called the cops on them right? They may be bloodthirsty right-wing extremists looking to go Jared Loughner on somebody right? Get the fuck outta here.

    • Haha you pretty much summed it up. But we all know the Constitution means nothing anymore. We have no rights, except to sit down and shut up.

    • Dropping or lowering your gun does NOT infringe on your rights. By your logic, if Joe Smith goes on a shooting rampage, and the cops say drop your gun…the cops are in the wrong?! LOL, that’s what’s funny with you gun-toters. You, like religious extremists, don’t really understand the reasoning behind the words you read. Let me explain;

      “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

      You have the right to bear arms, but there as there are no regulations to this, common sense must prevail, and I am pretty sure those that wrote this thought, ‘hey, people are smart, they will understand that there are rules to this’. I guess they were wrong though. People like you prove it everyday.

      The right to bear arms is specifically linked with the ‘security of a free State’. Walking around in downtown you are NOT securing dick! You have the right ONLY when concerning protecting the STATE! Not you! not your family, the state! As the state is not under attack in this guys case, the second amendment does NOT apply!

      • Melek .. a history lesson for you, dear.

        After James Madison’s Bill of Rights was submitted to Congress, Tench Coxe (see also: Tench Coxe and the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, 1787-1823) published his “Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution,” in the Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 He asserts that it’s the people (as individuals) with arms, who serve as the ultimate check on government:

        As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.

        • Listen, I am not saying you can’t own a gun. The point was that you can carry a gun willy nilly because the 2nd says so. I am pointing out that it actually does NOT say you can. The reasoning for having the right to bear arms was in order to defend against what you just wrote (which is fine if that is how it was). Carrying a gun around town for the sake of carrying a gun is NOT defending anything. It’s basically a paranoia that someone’s going to get you. If you are in trouble with some guy, or some cop that are violating your rights, then that is when you have the right.

  8. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of hearing police shootings for no reason…why not shoot the poor man in the leg or just taser him…these police officers are racist scum who love to kill black men.simple

    • Heresay, and useless dribble from a ‘person’ who hasn’t gone outside for months I bet. That talk makes you no different than a Nazi. Ya you! It’s called prejudice. You owned it. You don’t know all the facts, so statements from ‘people’ such as yourself…a Conspiracy sheeple, only shows how stupid people are getting.

      Re-tard much?

      • Hey d-ckhead!

        Who is responsible for giving us the “facts?” You said, “You don’t know all the facts, …” but have you even considered that the reason that we “don’t know all the facts” is because these SCUMBAG STAZI’s won’t give us “all the facts” because if we had “all the facts” the victims family would sue the living sh-t out of everybody!!!

        You should be more pissed about not having “all the facts” than we are about the fact that they just MURDERED another black man on the streets of Miami! Instead, you use their cover-up as justification to criticise someone who is upset about the fact that the cops have no f-cking clue, and are so scare sh-tless that they kill people and ask questions later. WHAT THE F-CK?

        • I never said I wasn’t upset with not having the facts. Pussy head! I am saying that neither side should jump to conclusions until we get the facts. You are preaching Guilty before proven innocent. An NWO value. You do realize that right? They won’t give us the facts because what now? You have proof? I hope you do, otherwise that type of talk gets the cause nowhere, and YOU help the NWO cause!

          What the F-ck indeed!

        • Under what circumstance do you believe that gunning down a man carrying a toy in broad daylight could possiby be just?

          So, when the facts come out, and those facts fall well short of your own stated bar for justification, we will both understand that this is MURDER!

          It is fairly clear what happened here, and, historically, if the cops had any way, at all, to justify their actions, that little talking head cop rep. would be all over the airwaves and tv touting it!

        • I never said it was just! I am saying there are things we don’t know! We can’t assume these cops were bad just because they are cops? That’s equivelant to saying because your black you must be a criminal. Stupid right!? Have you had a person pull a gun on you? Have you ever felt threatened in such a way? These cops may have shot the guy and killed him, but was that there intent? Did they honestly think this guy…who may have seemed like he was on drugs because of his autism (which they didn’t know about) might have been a threat to their lives?

          The only facts we know are a guy died becuase he had a ‘gun’ and pointed it at the cops. Until such time as we are given more information we cannot just assume anything!

          I have NOT justified anything. I am only pointing out that there is a lot we don’t know, and this witch hunt that way too many here follow is the exact opposite of intellegence.

          If you are so sure of your assertations prove it. Put your soul as the prize. If you are right, you keep it, if not…it’s mine.

        • Mel,

          I am NOT asuuming that these cops are bad because they are cops! I am suggesting that they are bad because they killed a man who had a toy gun, in broad daylight. At no time WHATSOEVER were they actually in danger. At no time WHATSOEVER could they have ever been placed in harm’s way. That is the reality, despite their possible perception to the contrary.

          However, they are so drugged up with “low-T” testosterone drugs, PTSD diagnosed SSRI drugs, and illegal steroids, and then given the worse training imaginable, their perception of being in danger has no bearing WHATSOEVER in reality!

          They killed a man because he had a toy gun, and they won’t even show us the gun, and “made a move.” They f-cked up and now they are covering up.

  9. Devil’s advocate here. As evident by numerous posts on this site, there is a serious lack of unbias viewing.

    -The lady at the begining says this guy was known for a long time, and everyone knew him. Well, that is not the case. Why would people be calling 911 if they knew him?

    -As most here have never been in a situation that there life depended upon, unless somehow typing on your keyboard is lifethreatening, the fact is, this guy pointed a ‘gun’ at another person. When this happens you are likely to get shot. I bet if someone was walking in front of your house with a gun and pointed it at you/family and you had a gun you’d shoot too.

    -the bullsh1t disability excuse. Let’s face facts. I don’t care if you are Stephin Hawkins…if you have a gun and are a potential threat, you are going down! My life is more important than yours! Fact! The guy pointed the gun, didn’t listen to commands and he got shot. No one is saying he deserved it, but to say they aren’t buying this or that just shows how ignorant people are these days.

    I still find it amusing that all cops are somehow lumped together as being evil people. That without actual video of the incident, people jump to their illogical and asinine theories. Nazi anyone? That’s who you relate most with when you do.

    Think, read, think, read, think, respond. If you can’t do it that way, don’t respond at all.

    • It’s not illegal to walk around with a rifle. In our paranoid fear-driven society anyone who has a gun is now Jared Loughner. According the 2nd amendment I DON”T NEED TO EXPLAIN SHIT TO ANYONE about why I’m carrying a gun.

      • Yup, and I don’t need any explanation of why I blew your head off when you pointed that gun at me.

        The bottom line is; This man, whether disabled or not, pointed a gun at officers and when instructed to drop that weapon, he was shot. The fact that he was retarded gives them more of a case in my eyes. He’s not aware of his actions like the rest of us are, that is very apparent from testimony given in this video. Ergo, he could shoot the cops and A.) Not realize it B.) Not care.

        If the story goes as we are told, then I believe the cops did what they had to do and were responsible by telling him to put the gun down BEFORE shooting.

        That being said, we know how these things get twisted by the media, so we really can’t draw conclusions until we see video.

      • That was not the point of my comment! Again, “Think, read, think, read, think, respond”

        Take it to heart “wayne”, the point was, the lady said everyone knew him. If they did, they would have known he was just playing. They obviously don’t all know him, cause they called the police. There is nothing wrong with carrying a gun…fine! There’s nothing wrong with calling the police to be safe, whether paranoia or not.

        2nd amendment…really? Where does it explicitly say that? Please inform me where it says you don’t need to explain ‘shit’!

        • THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR (that means walk down the street with it in your hands) ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED seems pretty clear!

          And if you simply took your own f-cking advise “Think, read, think, …” you would know that it is PERFECTLY F-CKING LEGAL to have a rifle in plain sight on the streets of Florida!

          You weak suck IDIOTS have no f-cking clue! Why in the hell are you people so damn afraid of a man with a gun? HOLY SH-T! Do you understand that NOT allowing a man to have a gun on the streets of the USofA is MORE DANGEROUS to our life and liberty?

        • Florida Constitution

          Section 8. Right to Bear Arms. The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.

          How about THAT in context?

          IN DEFENSE OF THEMSELVES!

        • Already exlained that….and you lost!

      • unfortunately, it IS illegal in the state of Florida to openly carry a firearm in the state of Florida;

        The 2000 Florida Statutes

        Title XLVI
        CRIMES
        Chapter 790
        Weapons And Firearms
        View Entire Chapter
        790.053 Open carrying of weapons.–

        (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device.

        (2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense:

        (a) A self-defense chemical spray.

        (b) A nonlethal stun gun or remote stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device which does not fire a dart or projectile and is designed solely for defensive purposes.

        (3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

        History.–s. 1, ch. 87-537; s. 173, ch. 91-224; s. 3, ch. 97-72; s. 1205, ch. 97-102.

    • Look…..It probably came down to this ridiculous see something say something campaign. Spying on your neighbors and friends AND FAMILY?!?!?
      Probably someone not from the neighborhood driving through seeing this guy carrying a gun phoned it in. Living in a community for 31 years you are going to be known. And what did happen with shooting to disarm? At the worst he could have been injured. THIS WAS MURDER. Plain and simple. Open your damn eyes

      • As mentioned in another post FreeinTX…read the entire amendment. You are negleting why to carry…to protect the state!!! Walking down mainstreet USA with a gun does not follow the 2nd amendments meanings. Context boy…context.

        • It’s not fear I am talking about…re-read!! Think before YOU write!

        • You need to read the 2nd Amendment.

          Let’s look,

          “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

          Because we need a malitia capable of defending a free State, the RIGHT of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

          What is the RIGHT being protected by the 2nd amendment? The RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS! Why do we need the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS? Because a well regulated malitia is NECESSARY to the security of a free state.

          If you actually read the federalist papers, and the forefathers sentiments RE: the 2nd amnedment, it is very clear that they believed that the ability to form up a “well regulated malitia” was necesarry to have a free state, and in order to maintain a well regulated malitia, the government would be BARRED from interfering with the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. They are FORBIDDEN from interferring with the ability of the people to arm themselves, train themselves, and maintain their ability to form well regulated malitia agaist an oppressive government. That means that a guy can walk down the streets of Florida, with a REAL rifle, and train himself to maintain is ability to participate in an anti-government malitia.

          SCARY!!!! WHOOOOOO!

          So, yes, CONTEXT! And YES! READ THINK READ THINK READ THINK SPEAK or WRITE! You have the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS and train yourself outside government function to maintain the ability to form well regulated malitia because it is NECESSARY in order to maintain a free state! It is VERY VERY CLEAR, our forefathers intent.

        • Hahaha…you obviously don’t realize what the amendment is about!

          Think about basic english when concerning structure.

          The topic is the right to bear arms. There is a reason given for why you should bear arms. The reasoning is to protect the state. There is no mention of defending yourself by the way. Basic enlish understanding then shows, that you have the right to carry a gun in order to help defend the State against those who want to undermine or destory the state. You alone walking down a mainstreet does NOT constitute a militia!

          Go relearn grade school english.

          If I have to re-explain this logic, then I think you need go get your head checked for stupiditis ignoramous.

  10. I’d like to see the fake gun. If it indeed looked real then the cops had every right to shoot him. Were they supposed to know he was autistic? Don’t get me wrong, I can’t stand most cops, but they have a right to defend themselves just like you and I. Let’s see the fake gun!

    • I agree but why are the cops coming in the first place? Is it not legal to walk around carrying a gun anymore??

      • I am definitely not saying it is illegal to open carry. If he raised it at the cops, then he is going to get shot. I don’t know why they were there in the first place. I would sure like to know more information on this story.

  11. Every time something like this happens, they never release a photo of the weapon.

    • Likely because it was an Airsoft gun with florescent colored muzzle tip. An 8 year old can spot an Airsoft TOY rifle.

      If there were transparency here all information would be released now. Instead of weeks and months the establishment will take to narrate they’re own fictitious story stating it as truth.

  12. thought most toy guns had a identifying orange or red object o the barrel end to let the pigs know it’s a toy gun.

  13. When all you have is a hammer, everything else looks like a nail.

  14. With so much made up bs dominating the news cycle, I wouldn’t believe this one either. Where are all of the details? The story reads like an open and shut case of self defense. This isn’t even a story.

    This is the real story that the media is not and cannot report on. Here’s what Osama, Obama, Biden, Bin Laden, the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorists, and Sarah Palin had to do with the last election and the military’s overthrow of our government. Search PalinsDirtyLittleSecret.blogspot

  15. These cops are not cops. They are recruits coming back from war. Our city just hired 7 more and we find out their training consisted of 8 weeks of training. What does that tell you. They have no education on what is actually law. They have really no formal education regarding personal rights and liberties. They are all being recruited straight from war. They are young punks who went to war to kill, were stop lossed 4-8 times and are mentally unstable when they return because most of their young adult lives has been suppressing humans in another country.

    These guys are told either go on the watch list as a terrorist in your own country for what you did overseas, or higher onto your local police station. Can you imagine 8 weeks of training. Yet if your a local boy who wants to get on the city police you have to attend College here for approx. 2 years before your allowed on the force.

    Cities are direct recruiting make no mistake about that. Oh and by the way this is in Canada. What do you think they are doing in the U.S.

  16. If you can’t recognize a real threat when you see one, you are just a another wannabe.

  17. “drop the weapon”? DROP THE SUPER SOAKER… NNNNOW!!!!!!!

    • I was just gonna say it was probably a water cannon with a huge bubble on top filled with urine.

      Seriously, though this isn’t funny. Some very dear friends of mine have an autistic son. He is an adult with the mind of an infant. Depending on the severity of the autism, they may be aware of what they are doing but severely hindered in their ability to communicate or express themselves. Indeed most autistic individuals need supervision. If the gun really looked authentic, who let this poor guy out in public with it? If it were a super soaker water cannon, then yea I’d say let him. No big deal, right?

      Again I’d like to see the “fake” rifle that he had. This would justify or nullify the cops actions.

      • GOOD CALL… EITHER WAY HE WULD HAVE TO POINT THE “GUN” AT THE OFFICERS FOR THEM TO SHOOT… EVEN THEN THEY SHOULD NOT SHOOT TO KILL BUT SHOOT TO “DISARM”. COPS ARE TRAINED FOR THIS… SUPPOSEDLY.

  18. What law denies you the right to bear a visible firearm. esp a toy one?

    Brandish? the guy turned around and got blasted after they yelled at him? WTF wouldnt you, esp if you knew you had only a toy in your hand and wanted toshow the fools more clearlly?

    Hope the surviving relatives get a huge settlement.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Bingo

  19. When i was a student american cops used to come over to Ireland a lot.Get a few drinks in them and the hatered for blacks comes out.Some of them take great pride in saying they shot one or two dead or had them locked up for life.Disgusting people.Hope they enjoyed there urinated drinks .

  20. Cops obligated to enforce the Second Amendment see a guy exercizing his Second Amendment right. “Let’s violate our oath to the US Consitution as well as the Florida Constitution, and order this presumed to be innocent man to drop his legal weapon”, shithole says. Yeah, let’s do that, other shitholes respond.

    Guy sees cops (but did he really see them or did they shoot him in the back?) telling him an unconstitutional command and ignores the illegitimate command. Cops murder him for fun cause they saw he was a weakling, that’s all. The usual nazi predatory trip. Now even is the guy is autistic, could he be so unaware of danger that he pointed his realistic toy gun at cops? No. They just murdered him and they hide the evidence as all murderers do.

    And what business do people have calling the police because they see someone practicing his Second Amendment and Florida Constitution right? Ok, everyone who carries a gun in the street must be shot dead, cops? Good. You are carrying guns in the street. Agree to be shot dead, bastards.

  21. A real big problem that lead to a killing like this is that most town, or cities don’t have police walking a beats anymore. Police are sitting in cars not talking to the community they serve, and getting to know some of the locals. A lot of police today are sitting in their squad cars talking on cell phones, and texting than meeting the public they serve.

    The town I grew up in had police walking a beat until I was in my late teens. Police walking a beat knew all the locals, especially the handicapped in the town. The local police in my town would take time to talk to the mentally challenged to see how they were doing, and if they needed anything. When the mentally challenged would have a meltdown the police knew who they were, knew they could defuse a situation verbally, and would drive them home, or a hospital depending on the situation.

    Instead police are being trained to hide to look for slightest infraction of the law than getting to know the public that pays their check.

  22. C’mon. There’s no excuse for this. They could have hailed him from the car, from a safe distance, they could have hailed him from behind cover. Guy’s walking down the road…clearly something is weird….could have been high, drunk, whatever, poor guy in this case said to be autistic no less. And as mentionjed, they have no mandate to shoot unless fired on or are very clearly threatened.
    This is overkill, trigger happy bull. Poor man.

  23. Notice how Infowars is eager to report about this story, but the black ex-military man Leonard John Egland that killed four white family members this weekend wasn’t mentioned.

    No…Infowars doesn’t have an agenda..! Ha ha ha ha!

    Infowars covers for the black crime rate, and hates cops.

    The pattern is clear.

    • Egland wasn’t shot to death by police either, although he probably deserved it. The pattern is clearly in your head.

      • You obviously haven’t followed infowars reporting.

        They have an anti-cop narrative.

        They also (like good liberals) have a blacks can do no wrong narrative.

        • you have no clue what you are talking about, mrcrouton. bad troll is bad

  24. First step in straightening out the corruption in this country is to get the F’N cops, EVERY ONE OF THEM. They’re nothing but useless eaters employed by the Corporate States of Amerika to enact populace harassment, control, and detention using INCORPORATED (FOR PROFIT) states, cities, and townships and privately owned (FOR PROFIT) correctional facilities, even to the point of undermining employment through the use of slave labor in these facilities. Ever notice of all the businesses closing and jobs being lost due to the economy, you still see new BANKS being built everywhere and classified ads for jobs are loaded with want ads for COPS and TSA personnel. These are the shills at the lowest point in this ponzi scheme. Lose them all at ALL levels of gov’t and the NWO will lose their KANGAROO COURT CAPITALIST law enforcement power. The whole “justice” system in this country is of, by, and for the money whores. They’re too chicken shit to try to enforce their ponzi schemes in person because they realize no one with half a clue will buy into them so they “buy” politicians, judges, and cops to do they’re dirty work so they can keep raping people and society as a whole. Well, “law” enforcement personnel at all levels, you’d better take heed. You’re going to get yours VERY SOON. Don’t say you weren’t warned when you’re faced with the REAL decision of whom you work for.

    • sounds like the plan for change is coming down the home stretch.. get ready freddy

      • You got that right. Here’s the first step: Cops HATE being recorded on video for obvious reasons. We’ve begun a little “policing the police” where some cruisers are being followed at every shift change from start to finish and their whole shift is recorded. Every cruiser is annotated by license plate and unit number, time of day and date, and every move they make is noted from A-Z. Lunch breaks, false “blues” to get through traffic, security checks for certain ” special citizens”, stopping to talk with pedestrians, etc. If they’re going to talk the talk, they’re going to walk the walk.

  25. OK being a Law enforcement officer I can understand the importance of preventing someone from walking down the street from brandishing a firearm. One problem I have with this incident is that how far away were the police officers from this man? Is this not why we have tasers? In this day and time there are many tools available to police officers and if that person refused to acknowledge commands but wa not actively pointing the weapon and shooting doesnt a body armored police officer have a responsibility to the public to approach the man and attempt to verify any supposed reality? I am not a brave man but if im wearing body armor I approach the man with gun drawn, I get close enough I see the gun isn’t real I dont shoot I am safer than the average citizen already with body armor. The problem is simply that too many police officers are less than brave much less. We are supposed to risk our lives for the safety of others that is the way it has always been. That is the way it should be.

  26. Why is it that most people don’t have any trouble with cops like myself?

    And most people know not to carry toy replicas of rifles around on the streets.

    Cops don’t want to get involved in any of this crap. They would much prefer hanging around at donut shops and screwing lonely housewives.

    This is the fault of the autistic mans family. Clearly he neede a minder to watch him from himself.

    • I don’t think he needs anyone to watch him anymore. I am in the military, and our law of war dictates that we can not fire unless fired upon first. Did this autistic man fire on the police with his toy gun? The police are an unchecked vortex of power…i think it is time they get checked.

    • Clearly he needs a mortician.

  27. I would bet fifty american eagle silver coins that dash cam video was erased in a hurry..there is no way i see this guy raising a toy weapon up in a way that be threatening. quick to the shoulder, aiming down a barrel. i dont know..i wasnt there.. here is what happens now.. just wait for the official report and then all the facts will come out.. go ahead..hold your breath..hold it.. hold it..

  28. Shot him as he turned round. Instead of shooting him in the back as he walked down the road.

  29. He had some real nice neighbors…..not. Blame them, if the gun had toy identifying markings.

  30. So what if it “looked real.” Even if it WAS real. Is it a crime to be holding a rifle?

    “Drop the weapon!”
    “Excuse me?”
    BLAM BLAM BLAM

  31. Hey people don’t worry the cops have to answer to God like anyone else…. However if someone had a weapon and turned around to pointit at you, would you stop to think about anything else? I wouldn’t….. If it looked real, then they felt a real threat. We don’t know, we weren’t there to really judge it. I’m so happy God is watching, we don’t need any other judge!

  32. They refused to release a photograph! Probably so nobody can see the brightly colored water gun….what makes it obvious that the cops where very trigger happy!

  33. I might buy that bit about it looking like a real gun…when I see some pictures of it. Yes, cops are entitled to defend themselves, but they are not entitled to kill people who do not comply with their orders. Most replicas/ toys/ soft air/ pellet guns, can be distinguished from a real gun by some one with half a brain. Is it illegal to walk down the street with a gun in Florida? Maybe the cops should have spent some time observing the suspect before jumping to conclusions.

  34. welcome to the NEW WORLD ORDER COPS

    FUCKING ASSHOLES

  35. (1) “Officials declined to release a photograph but insist it was a near-perfect replica.” Uh huh, if it was so realistic looking then why can’t we see it? If it’s that bad then perhaps you should show it so others don’t make the same mistake, or perhaps it was much more obvious then they want to let on. (2) A man in broad daylight is walking around with a gun. I think if he wanted to kill someone he would’ve done it, not just keep strolling around with it in plain sight. Perhaps the “trained” servants should’ve asked themselves why someone would do this. If I did, the first thing that would come to my mind is the possibility of a mental handicap. Anyone else knows what would happen if some random people saw you walking around with a gun in these paranoid times. Perhaps you should observe him for even just a minute instead of just rolling up and shooting him. I understand the need to protect but ask yourself these simple questions first on the drive over. (3) “Authorities say they are delaying the release of documents until the investigation moves further along.” Mmm I bet, have to make sure they find a loophole of an excuse for this because obviously the “trained” servants didn’t use their heads.. Good job Miami police on killing a mentally handicapped innocent. The NWO loves you, good slaves (pats on head).

    • : if it was so realistic looking then why can’t we see it?

      You should have seen how realistic the plane that hit the penatgon was and we still haven’t seen any pictures!

      I am all against LEO’s being morans and degenerates,.. but I am pretty sure if someone pointed a realistic replica towards me I would call that suicide. Some of the toys are too real and you probably don’t expect a grown man walking around with one.

      As for them saying it had to be obvious he was retarded, well, most crack heads seem pretty retarded to me too and they are often agressive, sounds like this guy was too. I’m not saying this guy was a crack head, I’m saying could you really tell?

      Let’s hope the cop wasn’t a moran, and if that’s the case he has to feel terrible about now. It’s too bad about the victim of course, but, in this case I think the 2 sides of the story have some veracity and I find it easy to be sympathetic to the officer without really knowing the full story.

      Now, if the cop was on roids screaming link my boots made some comments like, “well there is darwinism at work for you” then it’s be another opinion huh.. let’s see the video if any.

    • All very good points. The problem is that most cops are not trained professionals. For years now, very few competent men have become cops because the pay and benefits suck, and the hassle just is not worth it. So then we end up with these incompetent, Rambo wannabes who do outrageous things like this.

      • yep, I guess the guy pointed it at the LEO so i think quickly releasing any video would be the best thing for this department. we all see cops gone wild and know what they get involved with, maybe I am wrong for hoping the officer didn’t want to kill anyone. Poorly trained? yes, i think over the last 20 years you will find that in many fields in the US.

  36. tragic story… what do you say.. i just ask one question..why not release a photo of the toy gun? wouldnt you want to make the public aware of potential future accidents… by trigger happy cops..

    • Need to know, and by the way, get on your knees when questioning the government

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