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October 8th, 2011 
FAKE NEWS for the Zionist agenda 
Webster Tarpley
Infowars.com
October 8, 2011
Media spokesmen for the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations claimed that their operation is totally transparent, with everything subject to democratic discussion in a general assembly of all comers. But eyewitness reports from experienced observers on the ground in lower Manhattan indicate a much different reality behind these bland assurances. Forces appeared to be at work behind the scenes to manipulate the protest movement into a posture of supporting the presidential candidacy of Wall Street puppet Obama.
Eyewitness observers suggest that the deliberations of the general assembly are largely a diversion, and that real power is being increasingly concentrated in the hands of about 20 mysterious and anonymous individuals who appear to make up a kind of covert steering committee that pulls the strings on the general assembly, or else goes around it completely. The members of this cadre of mysterious operatives are not as young as the average demonstrator. The secret leadership is made up of people ranging in age from 25 to over 40, with the older ones occupying the key posts. Many of them appear to be active duty or recently retired military.
A Covert Steering Committee Behind the Scenes?
Attempts to ascertain the names of the behind-the-scenes leaders are met with stonewalling. When pressed to reveal her identity, one female leader gave her name as “Mary MIA.” Another gave his name as “Tony POW.”
If the leaders of OWS want to be transparent, let them make public at least the full names of the people who are actually running the show. No one wants to join a movement with anonymous leaders.
Observers have noticed that almost all of the likely members of the secret steering committee disappear from view between 4 and 6 p.m. each afternoon, right before the opening of the general assembly, for which they then re-appear. It is assumed that they are attending a closed-door meeting, but the general assembly is not officially informed of this fact.
Strange Bedfellows
Two individuals who appear to belong to the higher levels of the pecking order in Zuccotti Park are pictured above. The one on the left calls himself “Brendan.” When newspaper correspondents and other media representatives arrive, he is often the one who handles relations with them. “Brendan” looks old enough to be the father of many of the demonstrators.
The person pictured above on the right is a frequent speaker in the general assembly. He also has a role in relations with the press. According to one protester, he may have connections to the US military, but this has not been confirmed. Is his do-rag or bandana a fashion statement, or something else?
Who are these people? Who appointed them? To whom are they accountable?
Who Invited Michael Moore?
The general assembly is supposed to approve all major decisions. In reality, it appears to be occupied with endless deliberations about trivia while the really big decisions are being made someplace else. A case in point are the invitations which have obviously been extended to a whole series of discredited left liberal figures, many of them deeply implicated in inflicting the Obama presidency and continued Wall Street rule on our nation. Michael Moore, Naomi Klein, Mike Myers, and left-IMF ideologue Joseph Stiglitz have all appeared, and a visit by Noam Chomsky, a devoted supporter of the Bush theory of terrorism, is reportedly in the works. Eyewitnesses have reported that most demonstrators were not happy with the presence of the millionaire Michael Moore, who was using the demonstrations as props for his usual routine of self-promotion. But these objections carried no weight. Regular participants in the general assembly report that they were never consulted about whether to invite these left liberals. It is therefore a good guess that the invitations were actually issued by the secret steering committee. The general idea is once again to reduce the protest movement to a mere auxiliary in the effort to get Obama reelected.
The Consensus Straitjacket
The members of the secret steering committee have taken a leading role in imposing the unwieldy and time-consuming formalism of always reaching a consensus in the general assembly, meaning that any significant opposition can block the implementation of urgent actions. A simple up or down majority vote is not enough. (The last governing assembly of any major nation to give each member a veto over the actions of the whole body was the aristocratic Polish Diet of the 18th century, which was so dysfunctional that it led to Poland being obliterated from the map of Europe – not an example to be imitated.)
The consensus method provides immense comfort to the predatory speculators of Wall Street, since it virtually guarantees that no potent and controversial strategy to break the power of finance capital can emerge. Indeed, it guarantees that absolutely nothing will be able to emerge in an emergency after a rapid turn in the overall situation. The US Congress is paralyzed by a minority, but the consensus rules of the general assembly mean that it can be paralyzed by a tiny clique bent on sabotage. In the background, the covert steering committee is busy creating a series of faits accomplis.
The deliberations of the general assembly are one big filibuster. On October 4, much of the session was taken up with an agonized discussion of whether to buy or knit and sew sleeping bags as the nights became colder. Right-wing commentators hostile to the protests had a field day using this grotesque scene to mock the entire movement.
Those who run the General assembly sessions are known as facilitators. The relation of these facilitators to the secret steering committee is being investigated.
The OWS Declaration: Not One Concrete Demand for Americans
While the General assembly is occupied with questions like what to order for lunch as part of the shipments of free food that mysteriously appear at the demonstration site, the vital issue of program is left to a subcommittee. On October 5, the Olbermann evening news featured a reading of the Occupy Wall Street Declaration, written by protesters Ryan Hoffman and Lex Rendon. This document does not offer an analysis of the current economic crisis. Rather, it represents a laundry list of complaints, many valid and some spurious. Most important, this document contains not one concrete demand, measure, or program point on which the protesters are willing to pledge that they will be fighting for the interests of the American people. In that sense, it is a document of moral and intellectual impotence. It whines and complains, but it will do nothing to combat the widespread suspicion of the OWS movement felt in many quarters because of the Soros endorsement.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Economic demands are absolutely vital. The movement needs to offer specific solutions for the grave abuses and economic tragedies which are plaguing working people. These demands acquire a material power as they gain mass support. To get support from the inner-city ghetto, from the farm belt, from women, from labor, from the elderly, their vital concerns must be directly addressed. These groups absolutely do not need more analysis telling them how bad things are. They already know that. They need to see a social force which is ready to take leadership in accomplishing radical reforms -or else the revolution, as the case may be.
Student Loan Amnesty Now Paid for by 1% Wall Street Sales Tax
One obvious demand which needs to be included is an immediate amnesty or cancellation of all outstanding student loans. The zombie banks which have been bailed out by the United States government can and should eat their part of the $1 trillion which will have to be written off. The loans guaranteed by the government can be offset by new tax income from a 1% Wall Street sales tax on all financial turnover, including stocks, bonds, and derivatives. Estimates of the additional revenue from a Wall Street sales tax of this type start in the hundreds of billions of dollars and go into the trillions. The proceeds could be split between the federal government and the states, for the purposes of maintaining the social safety net and vital public services. Ordinary people pay sales tax, while bankers pay nothing. One bright spot in the demonstrations has been the presence of the nurses’ union, which has been militantly advocating just such a Tobin tax or financial transactions tax. Student loan amnesty now paid for by a 1% Wall St sales tax is a demand which could blow the lid off US politics once and for all.
Economic program is a science. It requires the mastery of many fields. Serious, intelligent people need to put their gifts to work mastering the science of economic program as part of their social responsibility to the American people.
The Indignados of Madrid: Europe’s Biggest Failures
According to reliable reports, the consensus method was imposed via the steering committee preparing for the demonstrations during the summer months. Individuals claiming to be students from Spain and Greece arrived and joined the steering committee, where they advocated the crippling consensus method. They pointed to the general assemblies held by the indignados of Madrid, a movement of youthful protesters concerned about austerity measures, youth unemployment, the excessive power of bankers, and economic injustice. But, even compared with Tunis, Cairo, Athens, and Reykjavík, the Madrid indignados must be judged as the biggest failure of them all, because of their total inability to oust the “socialist” IMF agent Zapatero, the enforcer of genocidal austerity demanded by the banks, or to block any of the austerity cuts. The indignados had no positive impact whatsoever on Spanish politics. Why imitate failure? This is the side of the current protests which Wall Street predator George Soros was happy to endorse this week.
A New International Otpor?
Observers are reminded of Otpor, the organization created by the CIA and the National Endowment for Democracy for the purpose of overthrowing the Serbian strongman Milosevic in 2000. After that color revolution had occurred, the leaders of Otpor turned their experience into an immensely lucrative consultancy under which they were assigned by the CIA and the NED to Ukraine, Georgia, Lebanon, and Egypt to train the operatives that would overthrow national leaders which the US wanted to get rid of. Have indignados veterans opened a new counterinsurgency franchise of this kind?
The “Theoretician”: Anarchist Peter Gelderloos, Fetishist of Consensus
Last night Occupy Wall Street spokesman Matthew Swaye appeared on the Ed Show of MSNBC, and announced that the main theoretician of the consensus straitjacket is anarchist Peter Gelderloos, author of the book Consensus. Swaye praised the “intricate process” of the general assemblies, where votes are expressed by thumbs up or thumbs down. Gelderloos, who is almost unknown in the United States, was arrested in Spain in 2007, and during his trial became a sort of minor celebrity in certain circles there. This may explain why the indignados leaders were indoctrinated with his belief structure. Gelderloos’s system is a Procrustean bed on which not many in their right mind will be willing to lie down.
Television appearances by protesters Kelly Heresy, Tyler Combelic, Ryan Hoffman, Lex Rendon and Swaye in recent days all have one common characteristic – their absolute inability to formulate a single demand or program which would speak to the urgent needs of the broader American public. Instead, many of them used the few precious minutes they had extolling the virtues of the imbecilic consensus model as the basis for some future Utopia. Hard-pressed working people do not have time for these pipe dreams. American working people urgently need help in finding a job, in blocking a foreclosure, in obtaining health care, and in getting out from under the crushing burden of student loans. Who chose these spokespersons?
So far, the current Wall Street protests have offered these embattled Americans virtually nothing but an unfulfilled promissory note.
Sam Seder, a former broadcaster for the failed Air America network and Obama backer, has argued that the movement should never come up with a program of concrete demands. This is the choice that would suit Obama. Unless and until the protest movement tells the American people what it is willing to fight for on their behalf, it risks becoming a mere collection of roustabouts for the Obama reelection campaign.
The stakes are much too high to let this happen. If this movement fails, fascism may be much closer than many people think. It must succeed, and to succeed it immediately requires a series of intelligible goals.
This post first appeared on Webster Tarpley’s website.
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How about a 1% tax on those protesting? That way there is money to clean up the mess, and pay for the cops. This would be a great way to test the facial recognition tech.
If the instigators of OWS were ever legitimate, they do come from the left – and the kinds of pressure for unanimous and coherent demands that are being placed on them by both the mainstream media and tge likes of Alex Jones and his rabid, hornet like devotees, would be entirely foreign as an MO. The model for this, at least originally, would be the typical young student type leftist model that dominates at G20 and WTO meetings. The only centralized organization usually comes from people from all different causes and agendas and tends to focus on establishing nothing more than a unified agreement to be nonviolent, set initial gathering sites, march routes, establish first aid stations, provide legal contacts in case of arrest and so on. Beyond that they are usually DECIDEDLY against dictating what protestors must protest for, against, or do or say.
The fact that most young people first encounter social dissent and exampls of resistence from within a hard-left paradigm, while naiive and irritating, simply comes from the fact that revolutionary traditions, the language, iconography, the people who have fought them on the ground – at least within the 20th century were socialists or communists – mostly within Mexico, Central, and South America. The university intelligentsia which has given such dissent it’s perceived credibility, like the Chomsky’s and Kleins are on the left.
And frankly when you listen to right wingers and people on this site, and the maniacal hatred they have for views which differ from theirs – it’s easy to see why it will take a long time for these left-indoctrinated people to be able to stand being around you long enough to take in an entirely different paradigm of dissent. For example I used to think “gun nuts” and hilbilly “militias” were mentally disturbed racist assholes with fundamentalist apocalyptic christian brainwashing.
It was through to listening to Alex actually (which may shock some of those who have only seen my recent posts) that I first came to understand what I previously saw as 2nd Amendment fundamentalist style fanaticism. I was never particularly impressed by people who almost seemed to want someone to car jack them or trespass so they could leagally shoot them. I was, however, stopped in my tracks when I came to see it’s purpose as a protection against tyranical government.
The ground where these left people and right wing libertarians overlap is in the areas resistance to police state style surveilance and abuses of citizens civil liberties. They also oppose the illegal war business, the unspeakable exploitation of defenseless third world countries. They hat propaganda, medial and political lies, mind control and the take-over of the food supply.
That’s quite a bit.
In most other areas the libertarian Jonesian types and the left leaning protestors will not agree. Particularly in the areas of radical libertarian so called free market economics vs socialism. The cases to be made for such free market ideology usually come from sources that were contemporary with the founding of nations. Since those times there has never been an example of a free market where corruption, abuse, monopoly, co-option of governments, exploitation and so on. Just so with communism. There have only been examples of tyrannical communist governments. In both cases the poor and slave classes were treated like animals.
They come from a (possibly naive) viewpoint that treats equal or communal access to food, shelter, and employment is the most conducive to mutual respect and survival. Libertarians tend to come from a (possibly macho and competitve) viewpoint that complete lack of oversight on the part of government will result in the best pricing and services, innovatin and business models – but most of all freedom from government control.
To me, both viewpoints in their idealist utopian “purist” forms are naive and utterly vulnerable to corruption.
If you have read this far, thank you, but please just consider this:
The way so many of you are talking about these kids is completely dehumanizing and myopic and to be honest so full of hatred as to sound like mental illness. Please try to consider my points about the ground you likely share with them. That way you will see them as human beings, not simply ideological enemies.
Most of them are reasonably educated and will listen to well reasoned opposing views. And most of them are DEFINITELY not obama/soros footsoldiers, though the movement may have been co-opted.
But if you think about it, ask youself how much of your potential solidarity with a general spirit of resistance and freedeom, have actually been co-opted by the likes of Alex Jones to accept only his dogma and literally feel hatred towards diverse opinions.
It’s just not cool man.
I am getting bored of the name calling and whatnot and so will not continue to post about this. But just try to entertain the possibility that I have been doing this because I care about people and their freedom of thought. It just may be possible some of us here have traded one prison like dogmatic paradigm for another.
One Love.
There’s really no time left for ideology. Since the foundation of political parties ideologies have kept us against each other; divided and indignant while those at the top above our little political games have fleeced us all. We need solidarity with one goal in mind and that is to oust the controllers and take our sovereignty back. This is not something that can be accomplished by having the system reform itself. Politics can come later.
It’s better to hang together than to hang separately.
A 1% tax on each move of an economic chess piece by any player is a great idea!
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What a crock of shit. No one wants to get hacked!
the rallies are in thier infancy.
Let them proceed and time will tell what the gov’t and our president will do.
Leaders are emerging.
If this mass nationwide protest did not ever get started it would be the same bad shit every day for all of us except it would keep getting worse.
The crooks are scared…finally… and need to be on trial for theft and breaking the law.
Any to big to fail company who thinks they can survive by doing bad business will fail.
We need to go back to our past society where there were no walmarts, home depots, giant banks on every corner. We need to frequent our local town vendors instead. Don’t feed the corporation!
“The Bolsheviks call any country or party fascist or Nazi if it takes or advocated measures to curb the activities of the Communist parties; those which permit the Communists to go freely about their business of destroying them and building a world soviet union are denominated ‘democratic’.”
Book: “Gruesome Harvest” by Ralph F. Keeling
As long as you say “We’re confronting fascism”, you can safely reference Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito and remain politically correct. If you say “We’re confronting communism”, you have to confront the Jewish question, which is surely a political “no-no”.
Great use of the word hijack in the headline. Goes well with this story too.
This is the real story that the media is not and cannot report on. Here’s what Osama, Obama, Biden, Bin Laden, the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorists, and Sarah Palin had to do with the last election and the military’s overthrow of our government. Search PalinsDirtyLittleSecret.blogspot and learn everything that’s going on in America with all of the ridiculous stories and events being orchestrated before the site is removed.
Looks like somebody is hijacking the zombie movement. If those were real zombies they would be advertizing for banks. BAAAAAANKS!
I’d like to see zombies arguing with official Democrat and Republican signs.
A: “Democraaaats!”
B: “Republicaaaans!”
Fluuu shooots! FLUUU SHOOOTS!
They could hand out copies of the CDC warning about zombies.
On second thought, don’t do the CDC any favors.
Who needs demands? Keep em guessing is the way to get things done.right? Everybody knows that Wall Street bankers are clairvoyant and for those who aren’t the suspense must be killing them.Like I always say,the best way to get your order quickly at the drive through is to say nothing into the speaker.Lol.
They have formed a government. Wow. Yeah this ones probably done now, that’s not what it should be about right now, it was the disorganisation they couldn’t deal with. They are good, I have to admit.
Definitely keep an eye on them.
Stiglitz is there. He posts articles in MSM for sheeple (which clearly I was) about the 1%, then up pops a movement we are the 99%. Hmm.
The problem is accountability. Get them on conflicts of interest, insider trading, rigging the markets, Glass-Steagall, tax loopholes, offshore accounts, bribes, transparency, demand to know what Assange found about the Bank of America and what information he was going to pass to serious fraud in the UK but never did, and what he had on Murdoch, party donations, politicians with shares in health companies, the list goes on.
Demand accountability.
There is some potential hypocrisy when you slam the other side for trying to develop a voluntary consensus and as a result not being able to develop a united front with a clear list of demands and then you slam any attempt by some to take a leadership role and steer the motley group towards some consensus while you use all the rhetoric at your disposal to get a voluntary consensus for the solutions you already believe you know.
Almost all of us have a tendency to give lip service to the idea of individual freedom but then we get insulted when others won’t agree with our “obvious” truths. I have had to fight this issue continually in the religious domain. Leaders of a movement, at the start, do everything they can to seduce potential followers to voluntarily join and conform to the movement. As the movement gains success, the leaders begin to care less and less about whether one has volunteered or has been forced to conform to the dictates of the leader.
The fruit (results or evidence) of true freedom as envisioned in the Declaration of Independence, and I believe also by the Christ, is not consensus but the diversity that results from respecting each individual human’s right to choose for him/her self but not the right to force his/her neighbor to make the same choice. One point of consensus you can find among true freedom lovers is a common respect for the unalienable right of the individual to choose. Any other consensus among groups of individuals is the result of free choice and common needs or desires. If you think that having everyone instantly agree to and conform to a single decision is beautiful, go join a tyranny. If you look at the amazing diversity of life on the planet you are seeing a witness from the Creator that He/She also loves freedom and diversity.
If the rich, white, hippie trash, care so much about the environment, why are they leaving the place looking like shit?
h*t*t*p://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-Shocking-photos-protester-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html
how do these protests become violent, ??? looking at the participants there is nothing violent about any of the crowds, i dont see it, then all of a sudden i get it and i reallize how easy it would be to turn the whole mob into a murderous violent surge mob, and have this little protest become a huge growing mass, of people who normally would not go out there and who have little in common other than unemployment with the ows group, mostly leftists, the union scam to hijack and get their boots a good work out that was a passing phase, they wont want to be associating with this group anyday now, but, it was really easy to see all it would take is a spark to set this group or any mob protest group off just a spark, and all of a sudden it dawns on one, just what that is, watch the cameras pan in and out on the crowd as they roam around and pay special attention to the COPS and their minions as they scan the scene, the spark will be contrived cops with billy clubs beating up non violent protestors for exercising their rights, the cops will be doing their jobs as ordered from above do or die they have no choice they are told, this is how all protests become violent, at some point the police just get sick of the scene the punks in the streets calling them fing pigs etc. and they cant handle it, their emotions boil over and it builds and builds and one poor protestor probably a female will get hit over the head and that will be it, THAT IS THE SCENE WE WILL SEE ON TV ALL DAY ALL NIGHT, SOME ROGUE COP BEATING THE HEAD OF A PROTESTOR AND THEN OMG ALL YOU SORRY ASS PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE IT START TO SNOWBALL, AS REAL RIGHT WINGERS START COMING OUT, SKIN HEADS BIKERS GROUPS AND ONCE THE NRA SHOWS UP IN THE STREET 4 MILLION KNOWN MEMBERS WITH GUNS AND AMMO AND ALL THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARMED TO THE MAX WERE UP TO 15 MILLION ARMED RIGHT WINGERS AND WE ALL KNOW OVER HALF THE MILITARY MEMBERS ARE RIGHT WINGERS HALF, AND WOULD NOT SHOOT AMERICAN CITIZENS THERE SURELY ARE SOME WHO WILL BUT THAT WILL BE MET WITH RESISTENCE AS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TAKE BACK THEIR NATION I WILL LOOK AT THE NEWS TALKING HEADS AND THINK ABOUT THE LISTS BEING MADE OF ALL THE COMMIE CONSPIRATORS AND GOVERNMENT OPERATORS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RETALIATED AGAINST BY WHO EVER SURVIVES THIS BIG MESS AND THE LEFT WING POLITICIANS WONT MAKE IT, THE UNIONS WONT BE GETTING OVER PUBLIC GOVT WORKERS IRS FBI CIA TSA SS ALL GONNA BE ON SOME RIGHT WINGERS LISTS AND WE ALL KNOW THIS THE FEDS CAN MONITOR EVERY ALEX JONES LISTENER BLOGGER ETC. TRY TO DREAM UP REASONS TO ARREST US ALL EXECUTE ARE LIBERTARIAN ASSES FOR NOT BEING WILLING TO GO ALONG WITH THE COMMIE INDOCTRINATION, LETS FACE IT THE FEDS CAN PLANT KIDDIE PORN ON ANY COMPUTER IN AMERICA AND HAVE ITS OWNER EXECUTED LOCKED UP THOWN AWAY THE KEY AND IF YOU DONT THINK SO YOUR BRAINWASHED, NO ONE CAN SURVIVE THAT EVEN IF ITS PROVEN FALSE YOU CANNOT RECOVER YOUR RUINED AND YOUR GOVT IS ALL OVER TRYING TO RUIN YOU RIGHT NOW BIG EXPENSIVE THINK TANKS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO SCREW YOU MR LIBERTARIAN
These kids need to get informed that Less Laws, restoring the Constitution of the USA, Ending the Fed Rev, bring ALL our troops home, and restoring States Rights can and will turn this country around. More laws is not our answer. These kids know something is up, but their answers are only coming from their years of indoctrination.
Everything they learned, is not how things really work, and they are ripe for learning new ways that can work. They are awaking, but don’t see the answer because they never learned the questions to ask. We can change this, we have to change this.
These protests will be the biggest mistake that Soros ever made.
Actually, your the one that needs an education.
the ows rally has spread nationwide and the messages and goals are clear because people are sick and tierd of being on the losing end while the top bailout CEO’s reward themselves with our loan money which they have not paid back..
Read the signs protesters carry, and have empathy for the people who want the corrupt political and financial system to be wiped clean. The laws Regan Bush wrote in favor of deregulation need to be ammended.
what the hell is wrong with you?
Procrustean bed? ¡muy bueno!
The trouble with “eyewitnesses” is that they are often subject to being…well, subjective.
Like the “Boxer”, “a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest”…
Or “sees”, in this example.
Not bad, worth the price of admission just for the previously mention pearl.
Middling Tarpley is better than most’s best.
List of Answers (please add to, keep simple though):
Audit and End the Fed
Give Congress $ Power
Back $ with Gold
Reinstate Glass-Steagall
Write off Derivatives
Arrest and Try Banksters
Let Zombie Banks Fail
Investigate the Round Tables
Investigate Every Politician
Investigate 9/11 and 7/7
End the Imperialist Wars
End Gov. Gun/Drug Running
Lower and Simplify Taxes
Repeal Obamacare
Reign in Fed Departments
Destroy Super Congress
Disclose Alien Contacts
Release Free Energy
I add:
Let the rallies remain peaceful.
Fight back only when you are attacked by cops.
1) Why doesn’t Mr. Tarpley go to the podium and speak this speech, instead of writing it here? Their are no “invited” guests. They just show up, and true to the flow of the movement, anyone can speak their mind about anything they want to. The very “dishevelment” of the protest is it’s strongest ally. Everyone knows what needs to be done. It;s not friggin’ rocket science. It is the believe of the protestors that when the streets finally look like a scene out of “V”, the movie that only then what needs to be done will be done.
If Mr. Tarpley believes that a demand of Student Loan Amnesty Now Paid for by 1% Wall Street Sales Tax. He should propose it at the podium and/or to the general assembly. He is more than free to do so. I do understand that it is harder for “older” people to come to terms with the “hive mind”. However, hasn’t mankind, as a whole, really reached a point when we no longer need “leaders”?
2) Mary MIA and Tony POW are not members or leaders of Anonymous, because there are no members of Anonymous, and no leaders of Anonymous. This keeps everyone safe in more ways than one.
3) We are not there for …”urgent needs of the broader American public.” If they want to come and “demand” something they are more than free to do so, at any time.
You see this is the “main point” of the movement. A show of hands. How many will stand up to be counted. How many will keep their heads buried in the sand. When will all of America stop going to work. Send a letter to their creditors (enslave-rs) demanding justice for “our” money?
Why should a few take all the responsibility and duty of “all” Americans. Stand up or shut up.
Well, based on the puerile demands of this so-called OWS group you seem to speak for I’d say Tarpley has your number. Most of the demands are to the tune of ‘give me free stuff or I’ll cry’ instead of GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.
If you’re one of the people there protesting the Fed then get in there and try to steer it around to something that isn’t akin to a collectivist dream come true.
Im sorry if this is a little bit off topic but why does obamas JOBS BILL end states soverneighty i am surprised infowars hasn’t picked up on this
“The reasons that Friedman is totally blind to the tyrannical and despotic implications of his fiat money scheme is, once again, the arbitrary Chicagoite separation between the micro and the macro, the vain, chimerical hope that we can have totalitarian control of the macro sphere while the ‘free market’ is preserved in the micro. It should be clear by now that this kind of a truncated, Chicagoite micro-’free market’ is ‘free’ only in the most mocking and ironic sense: it is far more the Orwellian “freedom” of ‘Freedom is Slavery.’”
“In short, during the 1930s, Fisher and the Chicago School were ‘pre-Keynes Keynesians,’ and were, for that reason, considered quite radical and socialistic – and with good reason. Like the later Keynesians, the Chicagoans favored a ‘compensatory’ monetary and fiscal policy, though always with greater stress on the monetary arm.”
If the left were anywhere near as honest and introspective as, say, Rothbard or even Tarpley, we would realize that we are living under Keynesian macroeconomics, not free market capitalism, not in any real sense that the Austrians mean. And yet the left scapegoats the free market, insisting that we need even more government control. What’s more, Klein, in 2009, supported the Paul-Grayson “Audit the Fed” bill, and even went on television and called Wall Street vampire banks, afraid to see the light of day. Yet it is they who make government control at the macroeconomic level possible. It is they who are both the antidote to free market capitalism and yet the source of all of our economic woes.
Nevertheless, it is extremely ironic how we do not live under the umbrella of free market capitalism, that we instead live under Keynesian macroeconomics, government control, crony capitalism, whatever, and yet it is capitalism that is torn to shreds — this is dishonest analysis. What’s more, in 2002, Bernanke admitted that Friedman was right, that the Fed had caused the Great Depression.
“In fact, Friedman attributes the 1929 depression not to the preceding inflation boom but to the failure of the post-Strong Federal Reserve to inflate the money supply enough before and during the depression.”
But, ironically, Bernanke learned that QE and more helicopter-spending was needed instead of less.
Webster, GREAT piece!….the best I have seen = most intelligble analysis of what could be our own “color” revolution = large fail.
It seems to be becoming the new Tea party, being co-opted by everyone who want to get on the “people’s” good side. placeofrefuge2012.com
i like to write something about Wallstreet and trading. The media and government (especially in Europe) try to blame traders for problems and want a transaction tax. However, trading is a zero sum game. Some win and some lose. If the rules are fair I have no problem with that. Problem is ofcourse the rules are not fair. The big players are enabled to front run using flash quotes that a normal trader does not have. That is the first point. Make the rules fair for all participants and there is no problem. Participants already pay a tax on the income they make on the profits.
The big problem with Wallstreet is that these banks can list any company they want. They just print the money, issue stock and then put the stock on the market. Traders buy this stock (with real money) and the bankers can cash in. Also the companies now have money and they pay themselves huge salaries and bonuses without ever having to produce anything.
Recently we see all these reverse mergers where they buy up companies that are listed but are basically bankrupt. This way these slimeballs can get an easy listing on the stock market, banks can issue more stock and traders buy this stock (with hard earned money) while all the numbers these companies issue are just bogus. Look at all these “Chinese” reverse mergers. You really believe these are Chinese companies? They are just American crooks who hire some Chinese to make believe you buy into a valid Chinese company. But it is all organised by American criminals.
Wallstreet is just an easy way to print money, issue stock and sell it to people who really pay for it. Those are the traders and investors and they want to punish traders and investors while they are not the real problem. The media crooks just tell you they are.
why are they dressed up like zombies?
“you better do what we say- or we’ll eat your brains…”
WTF???!
Webster Tarpley, This nation has been a Fascist state for a long time. The government has been bailing out defenct companies for a long time in one manner or another and allowing the profits to be kept and the classes passed on to the Tax Payers and the working people.
George Soros and MoveOn.Org and the CPUSA.Org are heavily involved and guiding thios protest movement since before it ever hit the news. This is in thje near and longer term about wealth rediostribution and the destruction of what is left of OUR Constitution.
Haveno doubt. This is not about Freedom, Liberty or individual Constitutional rights.
Sic Semper Tyrannis !
Defunct companies and losses passed on.
I am very worried about OWS not succeeding because of being co-opted and having a lack of real leadership. I think they should demand:
1) Reinstate Glass-Steagall immediately.
2) Put the zombie banks into bankruptcy.
3) Bring our troops home NOW!
There are hundreds of demands that could be made. The object is to simplify the demands and have 2-3 demands that can easily be memorized by all participants there.
It’stough to memorise anything when your stoned all the time.
tsk, tsk, tsk, still not getting it. “leadership” in any form is force. “Leaders” have always turned out to be insane or inept in the long run. Is this a revolution or is it “evolution”?
This is the revolution of the mind, man.
And @magnacarta: I been moking spot for 20+ years, and I remember:
We are anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us. Sound the order in massive unison and at random! All tyrants local to global are ordered to surrender immediately and be permanently removed as tyrants are cruel useless fraudulent occupiers of land, sea, and government