Police use roadblock to gather serial-killer information

DENISSE SALAZAR
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER
January 11, 2012

PLACENTIA – Police stopped hundreds of vehicles Tuesday night during a roadblock set up in Placentia to try to gather information about a serial killer targeting homeless men in Orange County.

A special task force of about 70 local and federal law enforcement officials set up a roadblock canvas from 6 to 10 p.m. in the 100 block of North Bradford Avenue, across the street from where 53-year-old James McGillivray was killed. He was the first victim of what police have called a “serious, dangerous serial killer.”

“The idea is to stop vehicles and talk to drivers who are in the proximity to the crime scene near the first homicide in Placentia,” Anaheim police Sgt. Bob Dunn said.

Drivers who were stopped were asked a series of questions, including if they were in the area or may have seen something on the day of the killing.

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  1. Sounds like a dirty cop is on the loose.
    Kelly Thomas was murdered by police in Fullerton, that’s right next to Placentia.
    Cops are brutal assholes around here. it wouldn’t surprise me if it was one of them.
    they have no idea what they’re doing probably the lamest police force around.
    I’ve seen a women get arrested for saying hello to a Placentia cop.
    instead saying hello back he gave her a dirty look.
    and she called him a jerk.
    5 mins later she was cuffed in the back of her car with her Mceedees gettin cold.
    FTP

  2. They should have let jeffrey dahmer go…..sometimes all a guy needs is a good talking to.

  3. Have you seen any serial killers around here? No, how would I have a clue who is a serial killer? It took the FBI and police departments all across the nation weeks and weeks to track down Andrew Cunanan who eventually ended up killing Versace in Miami Beach. They did not get answers by stopping drivers and asking idiotic questions. Stupid is as stupid does. People who had tips turned them in as quickly as they could. This is no way to conduct a Manhunt. It sounds more like, “you all could be a serial killer so we think we will close the freeway and ask each of you questions”. Here, let me take down some notes.

  4. Someone killing the homeless… what kind of sick, depraved individual would do such a thing?

    Hey, was Chris Kyle in the vicinity?

  5. I can hear myself now if I ever drive through one of these road blocks.

    Police: we need to ask you a few questions.
    Me: am I being detained?
    Police : no we just need to know why you are in this area?
    Me : None of your business.
    Police: sounds like you have something to hide.
    Me: no it is simply none of your business. Can I go now.
    Police: no, let me see your license.
    Me. : Am I being detained and if so why otherwise I am leaving.
    Police: we are trying to find a killer? No we insist on you cooperating.
    Me: am I being detained? If you do not have a reason get lost.

    • Would it kill you to help out your fellow Americans by simply answering a few questions without attitude? You could help in the arrest and keep your neighbors safer. Hope your next.

      • How about the state not deprive you of your right to Constitutional carry of firearms?
        Then those who are ‘homeless’ would not be victimized.

        • Why the Christian God is Impossible
          by Chad Docterman

          Introduction (From evil bible dot com)
          Christians consider the existence of their God to be an obvious truth that no sane man could deny. I strongly disagree with this assumption not only because evidence for the existence of this presumably ubiquitous yet invisible God is lacking, but because the very nature Christians attribute to this God is self-contradictory.

          Proving a Universal Negative
          It is taken for granted by Christians, as well as many atheists, that a universal negative cannot be proven. In this case, that universal negative is the statement that the Christian God does not exist. One would have to have omniscience, they say, in order to prove that anything does not exist. I disagree with this position, however, because omniscience is not needed in order to prove that a thing whose nature is a self-contradiction cannot, and therefore does not exist.
          I do not need a complete knowledge of the universe to prove to you that cubic spheres do not exist. Such objects have mutually-exclusive attributes which would render their existence impossible. For example, a cube, by definition, has 8 corners, while a sphere has none. These properties are completely incompatible: they cannot be held simultaneously by the same object. It is my intent to show that the supposed properties of the Christian God Yahweh, like those of a cubic sphere, are incompatible, and by so doing, to show Yahweh’s existence to be an impossibility.

          Defining YHWH
          Before we can discuss the existence of a thing, we must define it. Christians have endowed their God with all of the following attributes: He is eternal, all-powerful, and created everything. He created all the laws of nature and can change anything by an act of will. He is all-good, all-loving, and perfectly just. He is a personal God who experiences all of the emotions a human does. He is all-knowing. He sees everything past and future.
          God’s creation was originally perfect, but humans, by disobeying him, brought imperfection into the world. Humans are evil and sinful, and must suffer in this world because of their sinfulness. God gives humans the opportunity to accept forgiveness for their sin, and all who do will be rewarded with eternal bliss in heaven, but while they are on earth, they must suffer for his sake. All humans who choose not to accept this forgiveness must go to hell and be tormented for eternity.
          One Bible verse which Christians are fond of quoting says that atheists are fools. I intend to show that the above concepts of God are completely incompatible and so reveal the impossibility of all of them being true. Who is the fool? The fool is the one who believes impossible things and calls them divine mysteries.

          Perfection Seeks Even More Perfection
          What did God do during that eternity before he created everything? If God was all that existed back then, what disturbed the eternal equilibrium and compelled him to create? Was he bored? Was he lonely? God is supposed to be perfect. If something is perfect, it is complete–it needs nothing else. We humans engage in activities because we are pursuing that elusive perfection, because there is disequilibrium caused by a difference between what we are and what we want to be. If God is perfect, there can be no disequilibrium. There is nothing he needs, nothing he desires, and nothing he must or will do. A God who is perfect does nothing except exist. A perfect creator God is impossible.

          Perfection Begets Imperfection
          But, for the sake of argument, let’s continue. Let us suppose that this perfect God did create the universe. Humans were the crown of his creation, since they were created in God’s image and have the ability to make decisions. However, these humans spoiled the original perfection by choosing to disobey God.
          What!? If something is perfect, nothing imperfect can come from it. Someone once said that bad fruit cannot come from a good tree, and yet this “perfect” God created a “perfect” universe which was rendered imperfect by the “perfect” humans. The ultimate source of imperfection is God. What is perfect cannot become imperfect, so humans must have been created imperfect. What is perfect cannot create anything imperfect, so God must be imperfect to have created these imperfect humans. A perfect God who creates imperfect humans is impossible.

          The Freewill Argument
          The Christians’ objection to this argument involves freewill. They say that a being must have freewill to be happy. The omnibenevolent God did not wish to create robots, so he gave humans freewill to enable them to experience love and happiness. But the humans used this freewill to choose evil, and introduced imperfection into God’s originally perfect universe. God had no control over this decision, so the blame for our imperfect universe is on the humans, not God.
          Here is why the argument is weak. First, if God is omnipotent, then the assumption that freewill is necessary for happiness is false. If God could make it a rule that only beings with freewill may experience happiness, then he could just as easily have made it a rule that only robots may experience happiness. The latter option is clearly superior, since perfect robots will never make decisions which could render them or their creator unhappy, whereas beings with freewill could. A perfect and omnipotent God who creates beings capable of ruining their own happiness is impossible.
          Second, even if we were to allow the necessity of freewill for happiness, God could have created humans with freewill who did not have the ability to choose evil, but to choose between several good options.
          Third, God supposedly has freewill, and yet he does not make imperfect decisions. If humans are miniature images of God, our decisions should likewise be perfect. Also, the occupants of heaven, who presumably must have freewill to be happy, will never use that freewill to make imperfect decisions. Why would the originally perfect humans do differently?
          The point remains: the presence of imperfections in the universe disproves the supposed perfection of its creator.

          All-good God Knowingly Creates Future Suffering
          God is omniscient. When he created the universe, he saw the sufferings which humans would endure as a result of the sin of those original humans. He heard the screams of the damned. Surely he would have known that it would have been better for those humans to never have been born (in fact, the Bible says this very thing), and surely this all-compassionate deity would have foregone the creation of a universe destined to imperfection in which many of the humans were doomed to eternal suffering. A perfectly compassionate being who creates beings which he knows are doomed to suffer is impossible.

          Infinite Punishment for Finite Sins
          God is perfectly just, and yet he sentences the imperfect humans he created to infinite suffering in hell for finite sins. Clearly, a limited offense does not warrant unlimited punishment. God’s sentencing of the imperfect humans to an eternity in hell for a mere mortal lifetime of sin is infinitely more unjust than this punishment. The absurd injustice of this infinite punishment is even greater when we consider that the ultimate source of human imperfection is the God who created them. A perfectly just God who sentences his imperfect creation to infinite punishment for finite sins is impossible.

          Belief More Important Than Action
          Consider all of the people who live in the remote regions of the world who have never even heard the “gospel” of Jesus Christ. Consider the people who have naturally adhered to the religion of their parents and nation as they had been taught to do since birth. If we are to believe the Christians, all of these people will perish in the eternal fire for not believing in Jesus. It does not matter how just, kind, and generous they have been with their fellow humans during their lifetime: if they do not accept the gospel of Jesus, they are condemned. No just God would ever judge a man by his beliefs rather than his actions.

          Perfection’s Imperfect Revelation
          The Bible is supposedly God’s perfect Word. It contains instructions to humankind for avoiding the eternal fires of hell. How wonderful and kind of this God to provide us with this means of overcoming the problems for which he is ultimately responsible! The all-powerful God could have, by a mere act of will, eliminated all of the problems we humans must endure, but instead, in his infinite wisdom, he has opted to offer this indecipherable amalgam of books which is the Bible as a means for avoiding the hell which he has prepared for us. The perfect God has decided to reveal his wishes in this imperfect work, written in the imperfect language of imperfect man, translated, copied, interpreted, voted on, and related by imperfect man.
          No two men will ever agree what this perfect word of God is supposed to mean, since much of it is either self- contradictory, or obscured by enigmatic symbols. And yet the perfect God expects us imperfect humans to understand this paradoxical riddle using the imperfect minds with which he has equipped us. Surely the all-wise and all-powerful God would have known that it would have been better to reveal his perfect will directly to each of us, rather than to allow it to be debased and perverted by the imperfect language and botched interpretations of man.

          Contradictory Justice
          One need look to no source other than the Bible to discover its imperfections, for it contradicts itself and thus exposes its own imperfection. It contradicts itself on matters of justice, for the same just God who assures his people that sons shall not be punished for the sins of their fathers turns around and destroys an entire household for the sin of one man (he had stolen some of Yahweh’s war loot). It was this same Yahweh who afflicted thousands of his innocent people with plague and death to punish their evil king David for taking a census (?!). It was this same Yahweh who allowed the humans to slaughter his son because the perfect Yahweh had botched his own creation. Consider how many have been stoned, burned, slaughtered, raped, and enslaved because of Yahweh’s skewed sense of justice. The blood of innocent babies is on the perfect, just, compassionate hands of Yahweh.

          Contradictory History
          The Bible contradicts itself on matters of history. A person who reads and compares the contents of the Bible will be confused about exactly who Esau’s wives were, whether Timnah was a concubine or a son, and whether Jesus’ earthly lineage is through Solomon or his brother Nathan. These are but a few of hundreds of documented historical contradictions. If the Bible cannot confirm itself in mundane earthly matters, how are we to trust it on moral and spiritual matters?

          Unfulfilled Prophecy
          The Bible misinterprets its own prophecies. Read Isaiah 7 and compare it to Matthew 1 to find but one of many misinterpreted prophecies of which Christians are either passively or willfully ignorant. The fulfillment of prophecy in the Bible is cited as proof of its divine inspiration, and yet here is but one major example of a prophecy whose intended meaning has been and continues to be twisted to support subsequent absurd and false doctrines. There are no ends to which the credulous will not go to support their feeble beliefs in the face of compelling evidence against them.
          The Bible is imperfect. It only takes one imperfection to destroy the supposed perfection of this alleged Word of God. Many have been found. A perfect God who reveals his perfect will in an imperfect book is impossible.

          The Omniscient Changes the Future
          A God who knows the future is powerless to change it. An omniscient God who is all-powerful and freewilled is impossible.

          The Omniscient is Surprised
          A God who knows everything cannot have emotions. The Bible says that God experiences all of the emotions of humans, including anger, sadness, and happiness. We humans experience emotions as a result of new knowledge. A man who had formerly been ignorant of his wife’s infidelity will experience the emotions of anger and sadness only after he has learned what had previously been hidden. In contrast, the omniscient God is ignorant of nothing. Nothing is hidden from him, nothing new may be revealed to him, so there is no gained knowledge to which he may emotively react.
          We humans experience anger and frustration when something is wrong which we cannot fix. The perfect, omnipotent God, however, can fix anything. Humans experience longing for things we lack. The perfect God lacks nothing. An omniscient, omnipotent, and perfect God who experiences emotion is impossible.

          The Conclusion of the matter
          I have offered arguments for the impossibility, and thus the non- existence, of the Christian God Yahweh. No reasonable and freethinking individual can accept the existence of a being whose nature is so contradictory as that of Yahweh, the “perfect” creator of our imperfect universe. The existence of Yahweh is as impossible as the existence of cubic spheres or invisible pink unicorns.
          Should any Christian who reads this persist in defending these impossibilities through means of “divine transcendence” and “faith,” and should any Christian continue to call me an atheist fool, I will be forced to invoke the wrath of the Invisible Pink Unicorn:
          “You are a fool for denying the existence of the IPU. You have rejected true faith and have relied on your feeble powers of human reason and thus arrogantly denied the existence of Her Divine Transcendence, and so are you condemned.”
          If such arguments are good enough for Yahweh, they are good enough for Her Invisible Pinkness.
          As for me and my house, we shall choose reality.

        • @Ex-Christian…People here are starting to see right through your little game.You constantly spam the blogs on here to throw the conversations out of whack and push the bloggers comments down to the bottom.The argument you present through your copied and pasted comments is for nobody here but yourself.Your goal is not to “wake up” people on this site to what you percieve God and religion to be,but to distract people from continuing their conversations with hopes that they will make no leeway in their discussions as you contine to “throw a wrench” in the spokes.
          BTW, I’m quite cirtain that you and Inglorious Bastard are working together to spam this site as I’ve clearly noticed that you both continually spam in unison. Get a Life! We know you work for the government! Now go lick the boots of the masters who give you your pacheck like good NWO bitches,you pathetic traitors!

        • yup..! i blame the city for providing for these people.
          they need help.
          instead they buy crazy looking SUVs and crap.

        • EXCHRISTIAN MAKE YAH ANGRY = 777 in multiples of 3

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      • O if only it was about serving the public and helping keep them safe. If you believe that those in power give a flying frigola about any of us, much less homeless people being murdered, you are a stupid idiot. The pigs kill homeless people; they do not make a habit of protecting homeless people.
        I will never talk to a pig, ever, for any reason whatsoever, except to say I want my lawyer. My lawyer can tell the filthy pigs anything they deserve to know.

  6. I submitted this article – Remember, this is the same cops who killed homeless person Kelly Thomas just barely a few weeks ago.

    The local AM KFI640 is covering this as well, but their reporter on the ground reported: “I heard the cops and feds talking about this, and they all said that this was ‘unprecedented’” the host interrupts “unprecedented in the city? the state? the nation?” reporter continues: “..not sure, one guy said unprecedented in his 20 yrs in law enforcement, while another piped up unprecedented in his 30 years in law enforcement…” The reporter continues ” The cops said they don’t know who’s idea it was for the checkpoint, or where the idea came from…”

    Now that is suspect @dovetail: I think you’re on to something….

    • How to Activate the Constitutional Militia in Your Area

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    • Checkpoints are SOP for DHS… bet this little plan came straight from them.

  7. “The greater the number of laws and enactments, the more thieves and robbers there will be.”  ~ Lao-tzu

  8. Three murders so far in OC…

  9. Bottom Line: S is HTF: Now what?
    What do we do? You have unearthed so much, and I am grateful for this. Will you have more informative vids/links/info on what we should do? Besides stock-piling food, how does a single woman with two kids in the car address an invasive police/military TSA without being drug out of the car and losing my children? I am a doctor, a Ron Paul supporter, a freedom fighter. How do we combat this civilly? I think there are enough people with their eyes open to organize and think this through, regardless if RP is president. I think the election is detracting what we should really be focusing on~ survival.

  10. Since when did ” 1 ” killing constitute a serial killer spree? Supposed to be 2 or more killings linked to the same killer to constitute a serial killer. Far as talking to the police at some roadside police check point? NEVER!

    • read the whole artical….. there were 3 you dunce.

  11. After the CENTCOM Agent perform’s the hit on the “target”, he then gets a “pass” at the roadblock. And any failed attempts or loose associates get scooped up as suspects in the roadblock later.

  12. Probably the cops killing the homeless, then setting up their illegal checkpoints.

  13. any “Drone Pilots” show up.

  14. I believe they are looking for a arrest of a innocent person follow the leads in a crime not stopping cars thats crap.

  15. Transition under the cover to implement fear and control to obey,where are the investigators to investigate the murder like before,is all bull shit to implement control to clamp on us,until is normal and we comply,to make you feel they control you and that you have to obey,they are bringing in tactics from china cuba and north korea,and signing more laws everyday,for the final master piece ,well is to bad is just a big idea and a really bad one.they good thing about it is that they came out from the closet and we know who they are from phizer to burguerr king,from rockeffeler to bill gates,from the bush family to buffet,they are all identified like wolf blidser and hannity,they are identified from the fucking queen of england to the military chieff’s of staff. we know who the traitors of humanity are. and is great to root them out.

  16. The FBI being involved in the investigation of homeless peoples being murdered is suspect in itself.
    Call it a theory , but this sounds like an inside fed job. Maybe they are looking for a homeless war vet who is a witness and knows the mo of a covert op.

    • Serial killers do like to return to the scenes of their crimes to relive the crime.

    • Coincidentally in the same area where the cops murdered the mentally ill homeless Kelly Thomas , may be the FBI suspect the cops again.

  17. I thought you had to have multiple deaths before you could call someone a
    serial killer??

    • It only takes 3 murders to be a serial killer.

      • According to them, one is enough.

        • well if you would have read the article you would have read there were 3 killings.

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