‘Mubarak network still controls Egypt’

The Mubarak-era Prime Minister Ahmed Shafiq faces the risk of being banned from the run-off election if the parliament approves the bill.

In a large public gathering on Friday, at least 7,000 people demonstrated in the Mediterranean port city of Alexandria. Many carried Egyptian flags while others were holding their shoes in the air in a show of protest against the Mubarak ally, Shafiq.

The demonstration comes as the Egyptians are set to go to the polls on June 16-17 in a run-off election that will see Shafiq and the Muslim Brotherhood’s candidate, Mohamed Morsi, running for president.

Press TV has conducted an interview with Aly el-Kabbany, journalist and writer, to further discuss the issue. The following is a rough transcription of the interview.

Press TV: Egyptian revolutionaries, political forces were all shocked over these verdicts. Were you shocked?

El-Kabbany: Absolutely. Everyone was shocked because that shows clearly that the verdicts and the winning of Ahmed Shafiq in the first round of the presidential election that there is a conspiracy of the counter revolution and it is succeeding.

One cannot imagine how can a judge find Mubarak and his interior minister guilty of killing the martyrs of the revolution, and release and find innocent those who implemented the orders and they killed those martyrs.

There is something wrong, actually, in the prosecution, in the judicial system, and a judicial reform has to be established in Egypt and a retrial for Mubarak, his interior minister and the six aides of the interior minister should be tried again.

Also, it is ironic that he dropped the case of corruption against Alaa and Gamal Mubarak just because the time limit elapsed and he left them innocent or released them to enjoy the money they looted from the Egyptian people.

As I understand the Egyptian law, there is no time limit when people loot the money and commit corruption and give the money out of the Egyptian people and the Egyptian state.

This judge actually maybe is living outside Egypt in an ivory tower, not knowing what’s happening, and he does not realize that the Egyptian people with their revolution, they demand justice.

Justice has to be seen to be applied in the case of the aides of the foreign ministers who killed the Egyptians and in the case of the two sons of Mubarak who looted the Egyptian money – how did they get their wealth if they didn’t use the power of their father to loot it from the Egyptian people?

The situation is very sad, I would say. It is a big joke these verdicts.

Press TV: Our guest there, Mr. [Abayomi] Azikiwe, talks about how this may parallel in some sense the results that came out based on putting Ahmed Shafiq and Mohamed Morsi into the elections that there are going to be political repercussions, basically the polarization that many are talking about but, in turn, how SCAF [being] Ahmed Shafiq as their candidate. We can see, perhaps, that this verdict is a reflection of still the military having control in some respects over the systems in government such as the judiciary system. Do you have that reading; do you agree with that?

El-Kabbany: Certainly. But I have to admit that the intelligence of the Egyptian people supersedes the intelligence of this military council and the members of the counter revolution which we can see their fingers playing clearly in the political arena in Egypt.

The people in Egypt know that Mubarak is coming in a private plane to take him to court and he will stay in a hospital. With the likes of Ahmed Shafiq — win in the second round — Mubarak will stay in a hospital for a short time and then either he will be pardoned or his sentence will be cut short.

The Egyptian people know this and they demand…They demand that Mubarak and his interior secretary really are – the ruling should be capital punishment.

Also, those who implemented their decisions have to be retried and justice has to be applied. They tried actually to help Shafiq by giving Mubarak a life sentence but the Egyptian people, as I said, are intelligent enough not to be fooled by this ploy, by the military council, and they are now restarting the revolution until justice is applied.

We could see and hear Dr. Mohamed Mursi saying that a retrial will be done after his election and Dr. Abdel Moneim Abdel Fotouh and other presidential candidates went to Tahrir square to share with the demonstrators and protest against these verdicts. The Egyptian street is boiling, they demand justice and they will not go home until justice is applied and a retrial is done.

Someone like Hassan Sallam, the business manager of Mubarak who had been given a free hand to loot the Egyptian money and to steal the state lands and benefit Mubarak and his two sons, also the case against him was dropped.

All the corruption was forgiven and those people who really damaged the economy of Egypt are left free to enjoy the wealth they looted.

The other important point is that Mubarak has been tried on one crime, killing the martyrs during the 25 of January revolution. But actually this uprising and this revolution were launched against all his crimes against the Egyptian people, so he should be tried for all his crimes not only the latest one during the demonstrations and the uprising of January 25.

Press TV: There’s another verdict coming up on June 11th, that’s a key case that’s going to be examining the constitutionality of that law, the political isolation law, former Mubarak-era officials of running.

Aly el-Kabbany, is this a sign of how that ruling is going to turn out regarding Shafiq; and if it’s going to allow Shafiq to run if that verdict turns out that way, what are we going to see happen?

El-Kabbany: The law which had been passed by the elected parliament of the Egyptian people has to apply, anyone who’d rule that this law is constitutional because it has been issued by the only elected body in the Egyptian political life in Egypt.

We have got a military council appointed by the ousted president; we have got a transitional government which has been appointed again by the military council, so anything which is issued by the legislative council elected by the people should supersede any decision.

I expect that the high court in Egypt will rule that the isolation law issued by the parliament in Egypt is constitutional and Ahmed Shafiq should be banned from this election.

We have to see actually that the dissolved national party of the ousted Mubarak is still in power. We got rid of the head of the regime but the cancerous network of the corrupt regime of Mubarak is still controlling all aspects of life in Egypt.

It seems to me that it’s controlling the media, the judicial system and even the election because that dissolved party is helping Shafiq in all the government in Egypt and all the towns and cities all over the country.

GMA/AZ

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