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Over 300 people were arrested during the protest. The military has ordered some 180 of the detainees to be imprisoned for 15 days.

The demonstrations were called by the Muslim Brotherhood less than three weeks ahead of the country’s first presidential election since the ouster of long-time dictator Hosni Mubarak.

The Supreme Council of Armed Forces (SCAF) took power in the aftermath of the February 2011 revolution that toppled the Mubarak regime.

The Egyptian public accuses the ruling junta of following in Mubarak’s tracks by resorting to violence against popular protests.

Press TV has conducted an interview with Aly el-Kabbany, journalist and writer, to share his opinion on this issue.

The following is a rough transcription of the interview.

Press TV: What do you think is going on with a little less than 20 days left for these presidential elections regarding the violence that has ensued?

Before we start talking about the candidates, do you think that in any shape or form as to.have allegations that SCAF is involved? There were cases where people were shot, there were gunshots wounds to the head which conclusions happened, made allegations that SCAF perhaps was involved and they were pro-junta thugs involved in these acts of violence?

El-Kabbany: Actually it is very difficult for anyone to know what is going on in Egypt at the time being. There is a state of chaos and certainly the Supreme Military Council is responsible for this chaos since they assumed authorities and power in Egypt after the ousted president Hosni Mubarak.

The Supreme Military Council has to understand that the uprising of the Egyptian people were saying no to the military rule which ruled Egypt since 1952 because of the several failures and deterioration of the status of Egypt.

They are saying no to the autocratic regime, they are saying no to dictatorship and they want democracy and freedom.

So only the coming days will show, are we going to have a free and fair election in Egypt where the Egyptian people will express their will and they choose their representative or we will have a fraudulent election?

And so only days will show us the result. But until the military council knows that they will have to take orders from their political masters and they have to report to their political masters, then we will know that we will have a real democracy and freedom in Egypt.

But as long as the Supreme Military Council thinks that they constitute a “state within a state” and they give their dictates and orders to the Egyptian politicians then we are back to square one and the military rule is controlling Egypt again.

But what am I saying is that the Egyptian revolution proved that the wall of fear have been broken and this is one of the great achievements and if the military generals did not learn the lesson I think the youth of Egypt will teach them again the lesson by going back to the streets and uprising again until the revolution achieve its targets by creating a real freedom and democracy in Egypt and restoring Egyptian status and prestige regionally and internationally.

Press TV: Let us talk about the relationship between Amr Moussa and the Muslim Brotherhood based on the reading that I have done on this, Amr Moussa has been somewhat vague in terms of including the Islamists in his government if he works to win the presidency even though we know that the Muslim Brotherhood of course they pre-much occupied the biggest block in parliament. What do you think? Is he just putting on the show in terms of his relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood and its candidate?

El-Kabbany: Amr Moussa is an opportunist and he will change his color just to be a president of Egypt and end his political life in the presidential palace. There is nothing called half remnant or full remnant. There is either you are a member of the old regime which the Egyptian people ousted or you are not.

And there is no difference for me between Ahmed Shafik and Amr Moussa except that one is civilian and one is a military man. But both are ex-culprit and ex-criminal by being full members of the old regime which destroyed Egypt and denied the Egyptian people, their dignity and their pride and their national development and progress.

So the Egyptian people rebelled against the old regime with all its members and I would be very surprised and accuse the election of being fraudulent if the likes of Shafik or Amr Moussa won such election.

Because even if they kept quiet during the rule of Mubarak, their silence is a crime in its own because that is participating on the crimes and witnessing all those crimes and not doing anything or even saying anything or at least resigning not to be culprits and members of that rejected regime.

Press TV: You made a statement there Aly el-Kabbany prior I’d like to get your elaboration on that. When you said that the SCAF is a state within a state, but aren’t they just that, they control 40 percent of Egypt’s economy, they are not going to let go of that, I wouldn’t think so. Tell us who would assure them of that position not only in terms of them controlling 40 percent of the economy but them to have the control as they have militarily.

What is going to break that? What is going to guarantee in terms of any of these candidates that that is going to get broken?

El-Kabbany: Only 40 percent of the Egyptian economy is the real corruption which the new democratic regime should abolish.

The military establishment, their role is to protect the borders and the dignity and the sovereignty of the country not to be traders or economical power inside the states.

All this 40 percent which they control and own and run is actually owned by the Egyptian people. It does not belong to them and they should not involve themselves in these activities and should just concentrate on their main duties.

So their role is to go back to their barracks, train themselves and protect the borders of the country and protect the dignity and the sovereignty of the country, nothing else. They should not interfere in the political life in Egypt and they should not interfere in the economical activities and social activities in Egypt.

So as I said, their role is to report to and take orders from their political masters who represent the Egyptian people because the sovereign now after the revolution is not the pharaoh of Egypt or the dictator of Egypt, it is back in the hands of the Egyptian people and those people are represented now by the legitimate elected parliament of the Majlis al-Shaab, the assembly of the people and Shura council.

So the military establishment should have no role whatsoever in the economy of Egypt or the economical activities and all these assets which they control should go back to the Egyptian people and run by the politician not by the military people.

It is not their job, it is not their role and all activities should be corrected in the proper way from now on once a president is elected and now we have got an elected parliament.

So SCAF should not interfere in the political life and the economy of the country.

Press TV: And finally quickly Aly el-Kabbany May the second, three weeks before these elections, Senate foreign relations committee chairman John Kerry went to Cairo, met with the Muslim Brotherhood’s candidate and then after that scheduled to go to Israel. What do you make of that visit?

El-Kabbany: First actually I would like to say that no one knows the shape of the political system of government in Egypt. Is it a presidential system, is it a parliamentary system, is it a first-pass or proportion representation?

So we have to agree on the political system of government to know what is the role and the qualification of the coming president vis-à-vis the parliament.

As for Kerry’s visit, of course he wants and hope to settle the relation between Israel and Egypt and he expect that this relation goes smoothly as at the time of the ousted president which is actually a false dream because the Egyptian relation with Israel will never be the same.

Part of the revolution of Egypt is to correct this relation with the Zionist enemy because all the Egyptians with all their political shapes and colors consider the Zionist entity to be the main enemy of Egypt and until Egypt restore the real sovereignty of Sinai and until we restore sovereignty of all occupied Arab territories in Syria and in Palestine, there will never be real peace with the Israeli occupier who are expanding at the expense of the Arabs because of the regimes who are follower to the West and taking dictates from the Zionism.

AHK/JR