87-year-old German grandma shocks world by doubting Holocaust

Video plus full transcript

From Russian Insider
(May 9, 2018)

Questioning the Holocaust can get you in serious trouble in Germany, a country which takes great pride in its democracy.

The German government cares so much about democracy, that it unstintingly supports all of America’s and Israel’s democracy-spreading regime-change wars in the Middle East, often gladly selling the weapons for the butchery to both sides. When millions of refugees flood Europe as a result of those wars, the government then forces its obedient, long-suffering tax-payers to take them in at great expense and considerable danger to their womenfolk.

Meet Ursula Haverbeck, a numerically challenged octogenarian who goes around telling people she thinks the 6 million Holocaust number is bullticky.

Watch her break German law, right here on YouTube, as she calmly explains her reasoning in her sweet grandmotherly way that has endeared her to millions. (Turn on English captions).

Grandma Haverbeck is a rather astute self-promoter. Knowing she would be tossed in the slammer for questioning the holiest of holies, she welcomed the fact, knowing it would draw more attention to her arguments. German prisons are really quite comfy, compared to Mexican or Turkish ones.

Then, she pulled a next level PR move, she went on the lam, knowing it would generate yet more headlines. Then, still 2 steps ahead of her foes, once a nation-wide Gestapo-like manhunt was launched, she returned to her living room and cuckoo clocks and calmly awaited the arrival of the Polizei, slyly generating yet more media kerfuffle.

Come on German democracy spreaders and 6 million true-believers!, you are being trounced by this little 89 year old! If you’re not careful she’ll become a new Rosa Parks.

German Holocaust denial laws are doing a great job spreading …  Holocaust denial! – with a little help from Granny Haverbeck.

Full English Transcript of Video 

URSULA HAVERBECK:  My dear fellow Germans, do you know the answer? Where did the murder by gassing of six million (or at least, millions) of Jews take place? For five years now I have been asking this question — and waiting, in vain, for an answer.

Perhaps you will think that it is rather remarkable that I should even pose this question. Why do I do it? The Holocaust is self-evident, after all: everyone knows that six million Jews were gassed, above all in Auschwitz. And yet, precisely in the past twenty to twenty-five years this claim has become ever more questionable. First, through the reduction of the number of victims in Auschwitz itself.

It was there — and this in the public news programming of ZDF TV — on the eighth of October, 1993, in the open view of all citizens, that the old memorial tablet with its “Four Million Murdered” was taken down and replaced with a new tablet with only “About One and a Half Million.”

And in a debate afterwards, Jews, Poles and Gypsies quarreled over who had the biggest share among these victims. An explanation or even an apology to the German people for having, for decades, accused them with a false number was nowhere to be heard.

Secondly, through an article published by Der Spiegel editor Fritjof Meyer in a respected scholarly journal, namely “Osteuropa” [Eastern Europe], in May 2002, in which, taking note of new discoveries resulting from the emergence of previously unknown documents, etc., he comes to the conclusion that in Auschwitz itself no one at all was gassed.

And it’s certainly not one and a half million either but at the most — Mr. Meyer is very careful — in a subcamp of Auschwitz, in Birkenau, and even there, outside the camp itself, in a farmhouse (the foundations of which, curiously, have only recently been discovered) around (“presumably,” he says) 365,000 Jews were gassed. That too, thus, is an open question.

And amazingly Mr. Meyer has never been prosecuted or indicted or denounced to the police for “trivialization” of the Holocaust.

And thirdly — and this really is new for all of us, though it was published back in 2000 — the book “Garrison and Commandant Orders” from the Institute for Contemporary History, a collection of material which had been stored away in Moscow ever since Auschwitz was overrun by the Russians, by the Red Army, and which now was made available to the Institute for Contemporary History. And already by the year 2000 the Institute for Contemporary History had deemed it necessary to publish it.

This is quite a thick book, mind you, and it costs the tidy little sum, today in Euros, of €124. But you can order it, and you can ask for it in the library too and study it there. From these “Commandant orders” in which the instructions from the administration at Auschwitz to the guard staff were laid down complete with dates, numbers and so on, all very precise as is usual with German officialdom, telling the guards what they are to do, it emerges clearly and undeniably, plain to see, that Auschwitz was NOT an extermination camp but rather a work camp in which people were to be kept as fit for work as possible in order for them to work in the munitions industries which were necessary for the war effort.

Naturally, with the continuous worsening of transportation conditions and the like, and of course the events of the war itself, it became ever more difficult to care for a large number of people in such a camp but it was, and remained, a work camp and not an extermination camp. And that’s precisely what, from the beginning, those who served there have always insisted.

Now finally, one might think, there would have to be a public explanation and a reconsideration, as well, of all the trials in which Germans have been condemned because they doubted that Auschwitz was an extermination camp: here now we have the confirmation that they were right. But once more nothing happened. To this day some of these people are still in prison.

All that should cause any thinking person to ask the question: If people are still being imprisoned because the murder of the six million Jews is “self-evident” well then, where were they murdered? You need to tell us that.


And that led me to write with this question, repeatedly, to the Central Council of Jews in Germany, to whom I have written three times in succession in the last five years and asked this question; then to the German Association of Judges; to the Chief Justices of the Regional and Higher Regional Courts; to the Prosecutor General’s Offices of the sixteen German States; and now also to the Ministry of Justice. So far I have received from these other institutions — and these are all public, official institutions — no answer to this question.

Quite plainly, none of the people written to and questioned knows where six million Jews were gassed, or even simply murdered. That leaves, for a thinking person, only one conclusion: they have no answer, there is no answer, and why? Because there was no Holocaust.

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Since this murder is supposed to be “self-evident” — as the courts to this day never tire of emphasizing and holding up to us over and over — one cannot now go on about some kind of “order to maintain secrecy” [i.e., preventing us from knowing more] and a retreat back to a drastically reduced number of victims is also impossible for then the singularity, the uniqueness, the unforgivable scope of the greatest crime of all time would be called into question.

We need merely think of the victims of the Rhine Meadows Camps, of Dresden, Hiroshima . . . and the huge number of victims, more than 2,500,000, during the expulsion of the Germans from the East.

No valid confession can be extracted by torture and no one claimed that in this concentration camp there was ever a gas chamber in which people were gassed except for [former Auschwitz commandant Rudolf] Höss, who was tortured so terribly that he afterwards said, “I would have signed anything.”

Indeed Fritjof Meyer himself noted that it is “not to be taken into account” in any reasonably fair trial when someone, after being tortured so terribly, says, “Yes, it was three million, or however many million, whatever you like, that were gassed by us.”

I think it’s now becoming clear and comprehensible for us, this question which we’ve always wondered about: Why indeed must there be this Paragraph 130 of the German Criminal Code?  In order to keep these things from being looked into too closely. And it also becomes comprehensible that the innumerable motions to present evidence which the accused have put forward have been completely struck down and ignored. These could only serve as evidence of something if that something happened; clearly they could serve as evidence of “nothing” — and so they had to disappear.

If we now look at world politics after 1945 it becomes clear that the Holocaust is the greatest and most enduring lie in history.

It was needed in order to finally complete the centuries-long struggle for world domination by the chosen people — that world domination was once promised to them by their god Yahweh and they believed in that promise firmly, it was their conviction.

Whether we call them Zionists, Khazars, oligarchs or globalizers, it is always the same.

World Wars I and II themselves were merely a preliminary stage for this achievement — in their view, understandably, but why, why in the view of the French, the Swiss, the Germans?

Why have German judges, whose independence is constitutionally guaranteed, gone along with that?

Why have state prosecutors, who should represent the federal government, indeed the German state, represented the interests of Israel instead? For that is what they have done in these trials.

And why have all the historians in our universities not unanimously refused to renounce their freedom of research, which likewise is guaranteed to them constitutionally?

And this poor, miseducated, lie-fed German people . . . will it now turn, indignant, against those who want to relieve it of this deeply implanted belief?

Might Germans not be ready, and able, to rethink their beliefs? The ancient Greeks used to lay such weighty questions at the feet the gods.

I do the same.

Before concluding, I would like to present a much needed — even if it has been done before — definition of the question work camp / extermination camp / concentration camp. I want to do this in order to prevent misunderstandings, and to emphasize once more that no revisionist has ever denied there were concentration camps.

Their existence is never questioned by the so-called “neo-Nazis,” as they’re called today, or “right-extremists” when these want to be taken seriously.

Moreover, concentration camps were no invention of the National Socialists but were already around during the Boer War in 1900, and indeed were established by the English and they’re still being set up to this day by the Americans, as for example at Guantanamo Bay.

According to the Hague Conventions on War on Land, members of an enemy nation may be interned in order to prevent espionage and the multiple, repeated Jewish declarations of war against the Third Reich since 1933 led to a situation in which, as for example Professor Ernst Nolte has established, the Third Reich was justified in treating German Jews as prisoners of war for these declarations of war had clearly demonstrated that Jewry considered itself at war with the Third Reich. Ernst Nolte says this in his book “The Passing of the Past” [Das Vergehen der Vergangenheit] where anyone can read it on page 171 and earlier as well on page 21.

So there were German concentration camps — no revisionist has ever disputed that. Nor is it disputed that the majority of the Jews were interned in them. This occurred in particular following the failure of Hitler’s many offers of peace to England.

(See in this connection English historian Martin Allen in his book “The Hitler/Hess Deception” which you can get at any bookstore.)

These concentration camps were, in Germany, in the Third Reich, work camps — during the war. The word “concentration camp,” however, is often used to evoke the idea of extermination — or emotionally provoke it.

With the increasing ferocity of the war, and above all with the increasing bombardment of all transport facilities — practically the entire infrastructure in Germany —through Allied bombing raids, living conditions in the concentration camps obviously became ever more difficult and not just for the German people.

And likewise it has not been disputed by anyone that in German concentration camps there were incidents of cruelty and mistreatment and even of murder. Why otherwise would four — some even say five — camp commandants have been brought before an SS tribunal with two of them even being sentenced to death? The taking up and exposure and publication of these events has come about entirely through the efforts of the revisionists, they have never been mentioned in court. And I ask myself if in any other state — any of the states that stood against us then in open hostility — such drastic punishments existed for the mistreatment of prisoners.

If historians meanwhile have arrived at fundamentally lower numbers of victims (for the concentration camps) that indeed does not mean that a correction was thereby made in public as well.

The saying “History is written by the victors” in no way implies that this history must correspond with the truth.

We must therefore demand, now that in verifiable form, and now that these official reports and contemporary statements from the time of the Third Reich, as for example the Commandant Orders, have been made public, that at the very least there should now follow a public explanation and — I would say — an apology too from those who have spread these lies.

And finally, of necessity there must also follow a reconsideration of all these convictions based on a false claim.

In conclusion, I would like to read a quotation from Germar Rudolf, who as a young chemist made a thorough study of the chemical properties of Zyklon-B — on professional grounds — including on location in Auschwitz, something for which he had to spend three-and-a-half years in prison because his research conclusions, as a chemist, were different from so-called politically correct opinion.

I would like to read this quotation from him in conclusion, Germar Rudolf writes:

“One of the important characteristics of evil is that it forbids questioning and it taboos or punishes the candid search for answers.” (I might add, punishes BY LAW.)

By prohibiting a person to ask questions and to search for answers. it is denying that which makes us human.

For the capacity to doubt and to search for answers to pressing problems is one of the most important attributes that distinguishes humans from animals.”

(This one can read in his “Lectures on the Holocaust,” page 12.)

It is therefore urgently necessary that an official, public clarification, unencumbered by any taboo or law, be provided to the German people and to the entire world  that explains what really happened in the German concentration camps.

Thank you.


VIDEO  :  19.03 mins
(German with English subtitles)

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