Barak vs US: We can’t wait until Iran declares it has a nuclear bomb

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Thursday, December 1, 2011

Major US-Israel differences surfaced suddenly Thursday, Dec. 1, over the timing and circumstances of an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities, when Gen. Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint US Chiefs of Staff, said: “I don’t know whether Israel would alert the United States ahead of time if it decided to take military action against Iran.” Three hours later, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak maintained US policy would enable Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon without the possibility of attacking it.

In an interview, General Dempsey went on to admit a range of differences between the US and Israel on two key issues: The first related to their expectations from the sanctions and the diplomatic moves being taken by the Obama administration, “with the stated intent not to take any options off the table” – language that leaves open the possibility of future military action.

“I am not sure that the Israelis share our outlook” on this matter, said the American general.

The second issue on which the Americans and Israelis are divided is their perspective on the future course of events relating to the Iranian nuclear program and the Middle East: “And … because to them this (a nuclear-armed Iran) is an existential threat I think probably that it’s fair to say that our expectations are different right now,” said Gen. Dempsey.

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34 Responses to “Barak vs US: We can’t wait until Iran declares it has a nuclear bomb”

  1. TRANSLATION: ORDERS FROM HIGH ABOVE, WAY WAY ABOVE: BOMBS AWAY

  2. Obama says we can’t wait but who is we? Maybe he needs to clarify the we part.

    MARK OF THE BEAST Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 11:29 am

    He is the sock puppet of destruction. And you all really thought there would be elections in 2012.
    What a bunch of saps you are.

  3. Israel giving orders to America. Yet most Americans think Israel is an ally, when Israel looks upon America as it’s prize possession. The US army needs to take out Israel, shut them bastards up forever.

    LEGION Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    i like what the founding fathers said about world jewery/they wanted no part of them

    Gay_Ray Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Although at one point, the official language of America (certainly on legal documents) was going to be Hebrew. Go figure!

  4. Hi Everybody………………The Israeli plans for their attack on Iran’s nuclear POWER plant facilities are still ongoing. There are many that are now saying that the time for this attack is now, due to the fact that America is still planning to withdraw the last of its occupation forces from Iraq. There is a suggestion that if Israel attacks Iran now, then the Iranians would respond by attacking American forces in Iraq and thus automatically trigger American involvement in this latest act of Jewish State aggression…The last of America’s occupation forces in Iraq are due to leave by December 31st, 2011…so whats stopping Israeli’s HEZBOLLAH of Lebanon.. the 33 days WAR memories …..lol…
    Thanks
    Best Wishes

  5. “We can’t wait until Iran declares it has a nuclear weapon”….Says Barak….who the f**k is “we”? Screw-off you piece of Euro-Trash. You and yours created this situation, now live with it and leave the US out of your swindles and terrorist operations. Oh, by the way, thanks for playing a part in the 911 murders, we needed that.

  6. man i cant believe how stupid some of you are,not going to mention any names (antizionistcelt).and yes reconidiot we are back.

    roberth70 Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Come on you coward, mention some names you zionist-cover-up-monkey. Your not who or what you say you are. Sniper?…..yea, murder at long range. Any god-damn fool can shoot someone at long distance. You guys come in waving your military background like heroes in our midst. You yellow-streaked-pukes.

    antizionistcelt Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    I am not a bit surprised how stupid you are. I mean seriously you’re not going to mention any names, and then you mention mine. I fully understand why Americans like you believe that war is peace. More like counter snipe. Fuck you, and fuck your beloved Israel first attitude, so common amongst Americans who abdicate their thought process to others. You let the Jews do your thinking for you. I mean you even refer to yourself as ” we ”, you probably have a Jew in you purse, sissy boy. You haven’t a fucking clue what is really going in the world, watching Jewish owned networks, you are probably one of those people that deny that the Jewish Zionists
    control the media, wall street, your government, etc… Hell I’d bet they even control your sick twisted mind.

  7. bravo2…out

    down with the clown Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    fuck you dip shit.

  8. hey idiot roberth 70 read my post if you can read ,i did mention a name ,you just proved my point

    antizionistcelt Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Counter sniper, do you have a counter argument ? Do you even know what that means ? Make a point, or just fuck off.

    reconscoutsniper Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    @antizionistcelt and Roberth70

    You guys know that this fool calling himself “countersniper” is actually “eniramnocer”, “0321recon” or in reality, Raphael Pizeno. He used a few other names in the past as well.

    Here are a few posts that the fool has made. He is into “paintball guns” (LOL!)
    ==============================================

    About Eniramnocer
    Biography
    Just a Soldier perplexing to get by.
    Location
    Hunter Army Air Base
    Interests
    PSO!!! 😀
    Occupation
    Dental Prosthetic Technician
    PS Zero Info
    PS Zero Friend Code
    3911 3340 8339
    PS Zero Character Information
    Force Lv75 with diseased weapons
    ==========================

    Home Page
    facebook.com/raphael.pizeno
    This Page
    pso-world.com/forums/member.php?u=66530
    ————————————————————-
    Well, things went a lot improved than we expected. we was means to get my 20k bonus, and a position that we wanted. we elite HazMat, though hey, we can’t always get what we want, eh? 😛
    Now I’m customarily relaxing and enjoying a time we have before we start my training.
    Unfortunately, a time it took to get here and a extreme restructuring of my association has prevented me to attend something that we was looking brazen to. It hurts to write this, though she has to know anyways, so I’ll tell her in a letter. Would be foolish to blog about it.
    ———————————————-
    Eniramnocer is Offline
    Head Hunter
    Posts: 10
    Join Date: Oct 2010
    Location: Hunter Army Air Base
    PSØ FC: 3911 3340 8339
    10-08-2010, 12:11 AM
    Still on this detour strong. At turn 85 now. Hopefully I’ll be means to find a good m�lange arms soon.
    Getting sleepy of personification support with this character
    ————————————————————————

    Should you choose to, you can read all about this phony at:

    @http://eniramnocer.multiply.com/
    ========================

    Also, check his pictures out.

    Or, you can see this bastard at:

    @http://www.myyearbook.com/eniramnocer
    ================================

    This is the message the site greets you with”

    Meet People like Raphael Pizeno on myYearbook!
    Join Raphael Pizeno and millions of other people chatting and playing games! Use myYearbook to make friends, meet new people, video chat, and play games! It’s fun, friendly and FREE!
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    Funny…..isnt it? He is 30 years old and more full of shit than a Thanks giving turkey.

    You guys decide for yourselves what you choose to do with this moron.

    He is/was a dental tech in the Army, was never a “B-4″ “Additional Skill Indentifier” (US Army sniper Special Forces Delta). He has never been or will ever be a member of the CORPS. That I can guarantee.

    Anyhow, Im done exposing this bastard. He chooses a new name after he gets made using the old one. LMAO! Looks like it is about time for him to “re name” himself again.

    Hey! Raphael, baby, who did you find to answer my question for you? LMAO!!! It took you almost a year to answer the same simple question! DUHHHhh LOL!!! You’re not fooling anyone but yourself…just like your buddy, Sam_Wheat beating his meat, all the while “smoking” his pipe and “poles”. Fool! LOL! By the way, you let your page on Facebook expire! WTF?!! LOL!!!

    Hey, Sam_Wheat, got that pipe of yours loaded? Good! Take a “pull”. LMAO!!

    Bravo2…….out

    antizionistcelt Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Comical shit. What a tosser. Raphael the dental nurse….

    PhilStapley Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Reconscoutsniper gets a headshot on Rafael Pizeno.
    Bravo, just fucking bravo…..

    casual observer Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Dental nurse? A torture expert. Hopes to extract confessions in FEMA camps.

    Super Duper Man 1776 Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    HA HA HA , MORON CANT EVEN TALK.

    IF THIS IS WHATS IN TODAYS ARMY, WE’RE FKED !

    WELL I SOULD SAY THEY ARE IF WE REVOLT.

    THIS GUY IS A COMPLETE IDIOT !

    Sam_Wheat Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    raccoonsnoutsniffer,

    Haven’t answered my question, have you?

    You know, about female companionship?

    And, not your neighbor’s cat you regularly anal-yze.

    Life sure is lonely in mommy’s basement, isn’t it?

    roberth70 Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Come on out of the shadows you cowardly puke. Let’s talk about how involved your Zionist handlers were in the 911 murders. You’ve been marinated in that military kool-aid for so long that you have to run to Bill O’Nothing and that other piece of trash Hannity the unsanitary. Give us your talking points, you know the drill don’t you?….Watch Mouse Blitzer the Shitzter in the morning on CNN and Bill No’reality in the evening on Fox(F’d) news.

  9. Nov 12: two American carriers, the USS Bush and USS Stennis sailed through the Strait of Hormuz side by side and took up position opposite the Iranian coast. That was also the day when a mysterious explosion at the Revolutionary Guards base near Tehran wiped out the entire leadership of Iran’s ballistic missile program.

    Five days later, on Nov. 17, the Syrian news agency reported three Russian naval vessels on the Mediterranean were heading toward Syria. Monday, Nov. 21, presidential sources in Damascus announced three warships had entered Syrian territorial waters outside Tartus port.

    Remember that the current administration promised troop withdrawal from Iraq by Christmas. Seems to me that something serious happening before Q4/11 or Q1/12 would be the pretext used by the US to keep troops right next door.

    They’ve already tried provoking a response from Iran by using the very tool they are claiming to fight… terrorism… and Iran hasn’t taken the bait.

  10. ****NOTE TO THOSE WHO MAY HAVE MISREAD THE TITLE OF THIS ARTICLE LIKE I HAD:

    The “BARAK” they are talking about is the ISRAELI DEFENSE MINISTER BARAK, NOT BARACK OBAMA!

    Although it sounds like Barack Obama (Who, like most people on here, I have no sympathy for whatsoever), we must keep the facts in perspective here in order not to confuse the information that we are given.

  11. I agree with Obama. We cannot wait until Iran has a nuclear bomb. Otherwise how are going to steal their oil without fear of repercussion.

    🙂 Now seriously:

    Israel has nukes. And it have proven to be a far more dangerous country than Iran. Let Iran have their nukes. And do not help Israel. Then peace will be found because of the fear of mutual destruction. And if they decide to nuke each others, less Zionist and Muslims in the area. A win-win situation for the people of the USA.

    proctologists for obama Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    Absolutely the best idea I have ever heard about Mid-East politics. Ron Paul 2012!

  12. actually im none of the above.im just a guy sitting behind his computer making fools out of all of you. i started reading prison planet about a year ago an just got disgusted with reconscoutsniper.i do agree with alot of what he says but unfortunately his delivery is quite rude an disgusting.i used the nick countersniper as a blow to reconscoutsniper and my whole objective was to make a fool out of recon.and i think i have done just that.it is amusing to see all the names of people that he was so sure i was,ones i have never heard of. recon, i do think you have alot of truth in what you are saying but just dont let people like me get under your skin so much and if they do try not to get so excited because when you do you sound ignorant and i dont think you are.and if you are not so mad will you give the fema locations for indiana. actually you are very knowledgeable in your analogy,s

    Super Duper Man 1776 Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    AND DO WE GIVE A SHIT ?

    NO !

  13. Fuck me you guys go way off topic. Back to Iran, this whole debate is about whether Iran is allowed to have a nuclear weapon but what gives the right to the Western powers to determine whether they have one? If the Western powers believe that Iran should be completely transparent with their capability then how about the the UK and US open up their secret weapons projects to the UN weapons inspectors?

    Tom Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Iran has had the nukes since 2002. The headlines is just delay tactics.

  14. The reality is if Iran had lots of nukes,(they do have some) this saber rattling and possible world destabilization would not be happening. The “occupiers” i.e. USRael, think they still have a chance to bag another oil rich nation. These bullies need to be put in their place and fast.

    phdinlogic Reply:
    December 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    The bullies are the NWO, Trilateral, FED, etc. Do you really think that after all their planning, that Iran and Syria will not fall? The only question is: what will Russia and China really do when these countries get taken down? Have the communists been bought out by the elites? I imagine we will find out shortly.

  15. Barack Obama should simply say America wants to bring the pain and suffering to Iran. Followed by “that’s what we do in America, we destroy people and places.” That’s how we do things in America. Then they use the media to act as if the United States is a great nation. America is not above judgment. It will not be a Christian or their god judging this nation or the world.

  16. COLONIAL V ATRAMENTAL

    Tough circumstances, folks. While Alex Jones is teaching you all about the globalists and corporate cronyism, the source of this mess is literally walking off with your kids. Your nemesis is Atramental Lodge 23, formerly Washington DC, and the less you know about this organization the more damage it can do to you. Atramental is a sister organization to Quatuor Coronati in the UK. Atramental is the neopolitical cohort you are dealing with regarding DHS, the PATRIOT Act and S.1867.1031.

    Neopolitics is a single party parliamentary entity having superimposed itself on our bicameral system neoliberal as democrat and neocon as republican. To understand this, you have to rethink US politics thus: Atramental v Colonial. Atramentals are formerly neopoliticians, and they serve an EU agenda that issues form the British monarchy. Constitutional politicians can more correctly be referred to as Colonials, since they issue on a libertine agenda which is principled on our constitutional republic.

    REVIEW: That’s Atramental, which is EU, and Colonial, which is US. Forget our traditional two party system long enough to figure this out. Then, restore.

    With this in mind, every candidate competing in the 2012 presidential election is an Atramental, with the exception of Ron Paul. Ron Paul is a Colonial, and more importantly he is also a Libertarian. If you want to restore the Bill of Rights, you’ll vote for Paul. On the other hand, for those of you who like the EU system, any of the other candidates will suffice to that purpose, including support for S.1867.1031, which Atramentals universally promote.

    KEY IDEA: Atramentals are the constitutional monarchy (UK). Colonials are a constitutional republic (US)

    Just so you know what you are getting yourself into here, Atramentals are notorious proxy politicians. They are rewarded with money, drugs, sex and ritual sacrifice to follow the EU mission to circumvent the Bill of Rights and collapse US domestic and economic infrastructure. They follow a political agenda written entirely in the UK, subordinate our constitutional republic to the UK’s constitutional monarchy, and they are the monsters responsible for the matrix abductions of Brittanee Drexel, Megan Maxwell, Holly Bobo and Lauren Spierer.

    The latter is the desired lifestyle of the Atramental, and they regularly perform occult renditions to resource ritual sacrifice in the UK and Rome with “products” acquired in the US. These products are young women and children who are selected off Facebook and Myspace, stalked via satellite cell phone technology, kidnapped and transported across national and international boundaries where they are tortured, raped and sacrificed.

    Sorry, folks. Play stupid if you like, but Obama is an Atramental.

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