UN arms treaty could put U.S. gun owners in foreign sights, say critics

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July 11, 2012

A treaty being hammered out this month at the United Nations — with Iran playing a key role — could expose the records of America’s gun owners to foreign governments — and, critics warn, eventually put the Second Amendment on global trial.

International talks in New York are going on throughout July on the final wording of the so-called Arms Trade Treaty, which supporters such as Amnesty International USA say would rein in unregulated weapons that kill an estimated 1,500 people daily around the world. But critics, including the National Rifle Association’s Wayne LaPierre, warn the treaty would mark a major step toward the eventual erosion of the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment gun-ownership rights.

Americans “just don’t want the UN to be acting as a global nanny with a global permission slip stating whether they can own a gun or not,” LaPierre said. “It cheapens our rights as American citizens, and weakens our sovereignty,” he warned in an exclusive interview with FoxNews.com from the halls of the UN negotiating chambers.

The world body has already been criticized for appointing Iran to a key role in the talks, even as Tehran stands accused by the UN of arming Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s bloody crackdown on rebels. The Obama administration in 2009 reversed Bush administration policy by agreeing to take part in the talks. But in another exclusive interview with FoxNews.com, the top government official on the issue under President Bush says he’s seen nothing new to convince him the U.S. should be at the table today.

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48 Responses to “UN arms treaty could put U.S. gun owners in foreign sights, say critics”

  1. FK THE UN

    I’D RATHER FIGHT THEM HERE, THEN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

    WE’LL RACK THEM AND STACK THEM AS FAST AS THEY COME

    – CHARLIE PUCKETTE KENTUCKY MILITIA

    Menzoberranzandweller Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Yes, screw the trial, lets go straight to the war. Dead scum foreigners or traitors are the same to me. You cannot have our arms. You want them, you f ucking take them.

    hellangone Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    If odumbo signs it, it’s CIVIL WAR!!!!!

    GIGGEDY GIGGEDY Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    I THINK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THEM THERE FOREIGNERS WE HAD TO DROP EVERYTHING, END OUR PEACE TIME AND GO FIGHT THERE WARS 2 TIMES LAST CENTURY.

    YOU KNOW, THE ONES WE SAVED FROM THE NAZI’S WITH OUR GUNS, AND THEY THINK THEY WILL COME HERE AND TAKE OUR GUNS.

    HA HA HA .

    THOSE WE CATCH ON ,OUR HALLOWED SACRED SOIL WILL NEVER GO HOME AND OR EVER BE SEEN AGAIN.

    GIGGEDY GIGGEDY Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    MILITIA DONT TAKE PRISIONERS, JUST ASK KADAFFI.

    LEGION Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    unmarked graves for all traitors foreign ,or domestic.

    Tom Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    Seriously. Why move to another country and have to learn their language. If I’m to fight the fight of my life, I would rather understand all the shouting and crying going on!

    Dandroid Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Exactly

    wildcat Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Lots of other Duropean and Arab countries allow their population to own shooting riflss and other weapons. It’s more or less mandatory in agricultural countries. If there is any problrm, it’s that thry can’t find dnough people wanting to shoot and eat rabbit.

    Arab countries celebrate just about everything by firing AK47′s into the air – even if it does mean the more than occassional injury.

    LEGION Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Waiting on you,you may get some of us ,but we will never comply ,or give up our rights.Be warned foreign ,domestic terrorists.Go bother Judea ,oh their leaders allow their people to own full autos.We are stuck with semi’s auto’s in the States ,but we will never,never,never,stand down.We seen what happened when the civilian lapdog cowards in England,Canada,Austraila, willing complied,and lost everything.We won’t let that happen here. We don’t recognize the terms sporting arms,hunting arms.We recgonize the words tyrany, dictator,terrorist. Do not try to bring down the TREE of LIBERTY ,IN OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC !!! You will lose badly !!!

  2. “1500 people killed per day”….. from a world population of 7 billion?
    The data doesn’t even attempt to examine the fact that most of these deaths were justifiable killings!!!

    How many were rapists?
    How many were home invaders?
    How many were gangsters thugs?

    Think about it!!!
    There are way more than 1500 assholes that need to be shot everyday.

    burntumbra Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Oh yeah, this article just reminded me. W Bush didn’t even particitpate in talks with Arab world leaders. Dubya’s policy was “It’s my way or the highway”. The only time his henchman would visit and talk to any world leader was with a laundry list of demands and hoops for that country to jump through. If Clit Romney is elected president (by Diebold blackbox fraud voting machines) expect our country to return to the dummies foreign policy.

    Startover Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    yep

    Tom Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Well, the last 8 Presidents have all read from the same script. Obama or Romney will of course continue to destroy us from within. The lying Science Community and Extreme Environmentalism will continue to be used to piggy-back treasonous pieces of legislation into laws. Congress, or rather, SUPERCongress will continue to tear our rights into nothingness. Martial law will only get more and more “prepared”. The only thing in this country working “correctly” will be the Voting Machines!!

    Startover Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    The CIA picked them all
    and the ones that refuse to obey, get impeached or driven to a grassy knoll.

    GIGGEDY GIGGEDY Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    ARE THESE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE PLANNING ON KILLING US BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE ?

    WHAT UTTER LIES AND BULLSHIT

    Startover Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    When the people are armed – they defend themselves
    When the people are disarmed – they are slaughtered.

    Any American leader who supports the UN gun grab is an enemy of the State.
    Go get’m Super!

  3. The unregulated small arms ‘kills’ 1500 people a day. Really the guns, and not the user do the killing. (and how many that are killed are disbarred of their fundamental human right of armed self defense)

    What about the government sponsored state enterprise of regulated arms, I think that kill 10x as many people.

  4. Why in the hell is it so hard to understand the word PURSUANCE as in:

    “which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made…”

    And why isn’t anyone (including our Super Hero Alex) bringing this up. Sometimes I really have to wonder about Alex. I know damn well he is aware of this but never mentions it.

    Even Wiki knows it:

    “Article Six of the United States Constitution establishes the Constitution and the laws and treaties of the United States made in accordance with it as the supreme law of the land,”

    Please note ………………….”AND TREATIES” in accordance with

    Doesn’t anyone read anymore?

    ………. eventually put the Second Amendment on global trial? This is pure unadulterated bs.

    This is the site of awake people??????????????

    GetitGotitGood Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Insanity,,,, shear insanity!

    GetitGotitGood Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Check out the beloved NRA. Even their not mentioning it. Now, there’s a bunch of bought out commie assh****s. They’ve went along with almost every major gun law in the nation and STILL the morons pay the membership.

    GIGGEDY GIGGEDY Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    THE NRA IS AN NGO, WITH AN OFFICE IN THE UN.

    THEY SPONSOR EVERY GUN LAW, GO LOOK IT UP.

    THEY PROMOTE HUNTING AND SPORTING WEAPONS, NOT MILITARY ASSAULT, THEY OPENLY DECLARE IT.

    THE 2ND AMENDMENT PROTECTS MILITARY WEAPONS ONLY.

    AND THEY KNOW THIS !

    Menzoberranzandweller Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 11:19 am

    It’s also insane to believe that we gun owners won’t defend our God given rights with our arms.

    GIGGEDY GIGGEDY Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    THE BRITS MADE THE MISTAKE OF TRYING THIS ONCE.

    Steve Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Well they would have to go after the gun shops across America first.
    Because they need a government license to sell firearms.
    Because they use the paper money system also known as the Public National Credit System.
    That system is in direct violation of Article 1 sec. 10 clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.
    “No State shall make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.”

    But the gun shop owners will probably not be reimbursed so they may put their guns on sale at a low price.

    GIGGEDY GIGGEDY Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    WE ALL KNEW THIS 20 YR’S AGO

    WHILE YOU WERE STILL CHITTING YOUR PANTS WE TALKED OF THIS, THATS WHY YOU DONT HEAR US TALKING ABOUT IT.

    IT’S VERY VERY OLD NEWS.

    YOU ARE THE ONE IN THE DARK YOUNG MAN !

    WHY DO YOU THINK WE FORMED MILITIA’S ?

    DUH !

  5. AJ, is there no depth to which you will sink? You are now quoting Fox News? Gee, wasn’t there an article you just had on this site about how inaccurate and self-serving the MSM was? And now you run this article? So much for PP’s integrity, huh?

    GIGGEDY GIGGEDY Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    GET OUT OF HERE YOU TROLL.

    zeroskill Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Oh, so now you LIKE Fix news? What’s next, you gonna start quoting Dick Cheney? I guess I shouldn’t expect as much from a giggedy that bought his stupid at a half-price sale.

    GIGGEDY GIGGEDY Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    FIRST WE HAD TO DEAL WITH LEFT /RIGHT MORONS

    NOW IT’S MSN / FOX IDIOTS !

  6. The “BIG LIE” in this article is telling the American people the stringent gun policy will take unregistered guns out of the hands of criminals. “Yeah…right”. Here’s an example of why this is bullshit. One of my favorite shows on TV is “The First 48″ on AE. It’s a homocide program that usually shows a few black males killing other black gangbangers in Miami, Dallas and Birmingham. When the murder weapon is found (a handgun) the police NEVER trace the serial number back to the real registered owner…never! Know why? Because gangbangers, murderers and thieves never register their own gun and use it to commit a crime. It is always a stolen gun, or a gun bought off the street. So what I’m saying is don’t believe the global governments lie. If we give up our guns, we are through as a free nation.

    GIGGEDY GIGGEDY Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    I WILL NOT REGISTER MY RIGHTS

    I WILL NOT ASK PERMISSION TO EXERCISE MY RIGHTS.

    NO-ONE WILL TAKE MY RIGHTS WITHOUT A FIGHT.

    Dandroid Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Exactly!

  7. Bring those blue hats to TEXAS we need live targets to shoot at

    Tom Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    Yeah, but WILL you? Because if there’s one thing I’ve found, it’s that macho can’t be macho except against weak idiots in the bars. When the real shit happens, macho takes flight like a f*g running from John Wayne.

  8. Well if the UN wants my guns they can have em…They get the ammo first.

    burntumbra Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    If the UN wants my guns they can have em…but they get the ammo first. Ha That’s excellent!! That should be all the American Patriots motto !!!

    Tom Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    I thought it was.

  9. lets add up the deaths rate cause by humanitiarin aide from the useless breathers of th UN

  10. Blame the UN for taking away the guns. Brilliant. That way the US Government doesn’t look like the bad guys and the UN will need to come here to enforce it. “Never let the Constitution stand in the way of controlling the people. – USrael Government”

    “Arms Trade Treaty, which supporters such as Amnesty International USA say would rein in unregulated weapons that kill an estimated 1,500 people daily around the world.” That sounds like a “shill” organization if there ever was one to help the “get the guns” agenda?

    TPTB want to take away the guns so it’s easier to control the US people. Make no mistake about it.

    Dandroid Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Yeah and where is the main UN building located?

  11. This is so clear that it is unbelievable that it has come down to this. There is no way anybody is going to CONVINCE world opinion that gun ownership is any kind of THREAT to humanity. Clearly, it is just the opposite. It is, CLEARLY, the one real protection anyone has against tyranny and cabalic control. . . and along the way we might have to protect ourselves against crime, as well. This “argument” is un-winnable by the control-freaks in any forum of exchange of logical integrity.

  12. The corporate control association has the technology outlined. Society must conform to the future profits they see being generated through these specific technologies.

  13. From the wikipedia entry, there are three categories:

    be diverted from its stated recipient;
    adversely affect regional security;
    or seriously impair poverty reduction or socioeconomic development.

    You could argue that weapons sold by gun stores
    may be stolen resold. and used by criminals.

    The other argument is that a fear of gun-crime is scaring potential residents away.

    This logic could be extended to preventing businesses from setying up.

    Though there are already bans in various urban areas.

    Dandroid Reply:
    July 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    If we had no guns I still would not set up shop in cities like Detroit. The thugs dont need guns WE DO.

  14. If the UN wants my gun let them, or their Federal, State or local todies, come and get it.

  15. Won’t effect those of us who don’t recognize UN authority….might as well be Yemen telling us we can’t have guns…

  16. signing treaty with UN will put politicians in patriots sites for treason
    oughtta been the headline.

    right now they are conspiring to commit such,
    is offense enough for punishment!

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