‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill Set For Final Vote Thursday

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Senate moves to limit debate on unconstitutional legislation

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, November 30, 2011

The Senate has cleared the way for a final vote tomorrow on the National Defense Authorization Act, a provision of which would empower the U.S. military to operate on American soil, arrest American citizens and cart them off to detention centers anywhere in the world.

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After the failure yesterday of an amendment that would have weakened Section 1031 of the NDAA bill, which would turn the entire “homeland” into a battlefield and allow the military to arrest individuals accused of being terrorists and detain them indefinitely without trial, the Senate voted 88-12 today to limit debate on the legislation, clearing it for passage tomorrow.

“A final vote on the bill could come as early as Thursday,” reports the Associated Press.

The provision was hashed out in secret by Senators Carl Levin and John McCain. Lindsay Graham, a supporter of the bill, explained that it would, “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.”

Republican Congressman Justin Amash called the provision of the bill, “one of the most anti-liberty pieces of legislation of our lifetime,” adding that the language had been “carefully crafted to mislead the public” in that the proposed law “does not preclude U.S. citizens from being detained indefinitely, without charge or trial, it simply makes such detention discretionary.”

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Amash has been joined in his opposition to the bill by Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, who has introduced an amendment to strike Section 1031 from the legislation altogether. When Paul confronted McCain on the provision earlier this week, McCain confirmed that it would apply to American citizens accused of being terrorists.

Paul warned yesterday that the passage of the bill could see U.S. citizens arrested on American soil and sent to Guantanamo Bay.

Although the Obama administration has threatened to veto the bill, some observers believe Obama would rather avoid a political hot potato and sign it into law anyway.

“He has said he will. Whether he will is a difficult question because, politically, it’s difficult to veto a defense spending bill that 680 pages long and includes authorization to spend on a whole range of military programs,” Daphne Eviatar, Senior Associate, Human Rights First’s Law and Security Program, told Democracy Now.

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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.


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44 Responses to “‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill Set For Final Vote Thursday”

  1. theyre dinkin around with “opposing” the bill, when they oughtta be arresting the SOB’s who have written it and voted for it, charging them with high treason!

    emus Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    western media would praise a country if it borrows money from world bank and pays huge amount of interest by taxing its citizens. they would want citizens to not have property rights so; they would just become slaves for the bankers for their entire life. If you buy a home doesn’t mean you own it. If you just made the down payment, closing, brokerage fee and other formalities you would still carry the load called mortgage for the rest of your life. If you happen to pay the mortgage off you would pay a hefty property tax besides income tax and plenty of other crooked form of oppression which are also known as tax. if we had democracy we would have known who our local legislators are. we do not know because they don’t represent us. they represent the lobbyists. despite all of these deceptions and lies white people will always scream the loudest about the fu…ing freedom that they don’t believe in. I used to wonder about these disgusting human race being fond of dogs. for a moment I was fooled into thinking that maybe they have some kind of love for animals. but then I realized that these satanic and jealous bunch of people love dogs because dogs are so obedient. their mentality is more like a jailer than a true animal lover. this is why they love to imprison free humanities wherever they may exist in the world. white people are the sociopathic bullies and jailers of the world.

    captain obvious Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    would you knock off with your racist BS anus2!
    sociopaths come in all colors, ask Idi Amin ya azzhole.

    captain obvious Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    then there was general Noriega,
    trading drugs that harm people,
    for weapons that harm people.

    was he fuggen “white” dumbazz?

  2. ‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill Set For Final Vote Thursday
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    From the article; ” Graham, a supporter of the bill, explained that it would, “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.”

    —————————————————————-

    IE; War…………..against any and all US Citizens.

    Bravo2…..out

    reconscoutsniper Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Is it me? Or, are there certain members(sic) that havent been showing their faces here as of late.

    Between_the_lines, Sam_Wheat, Huggles and several others have not commented on any articles for a few days now. They all seemed to have “vanished” at the same time.

    Coincidence?

    Gee, ya dont suppose…….

    It all started about the time that the first article on 1867 surfaced. Interesting Huh?

    Right….thats what we are considering as well. In the event they show back up, lets see what they say then.

    Bravo2…….out

    dncholas Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    I have notice the two mentioned as being trolls and stirring things up and rarely have anything intelligent to say, Sam_Wheat constantly talking smack about AJ, but then Huggles appeared to sound intelligent in the last couple of comments and then both disappeared. I also remember a new name appear quoting the Act stating it has nothing about citizens in it but doesn’t even give the section #. Plant.

    kat Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Kinda makes you wonder about some who get on here doesn’t Recon . Sam-Wheat the ghost that was in the movie that Swayze played . Huggles the dryer sheet and cloths softener bear , Hmmm.

    bkr360 Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Ditto…

    Super Duper Man 1776 Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    THIS IS UNEXCEPTABLE.

    CALL THEM ALL AND TELL THEM SO.

    TELL THEM WHEN WE START DISAPEARING SO WILL THEY !

  3. i would not want to be the ones in the history books that totally destroyed America,such a small group planning the destruction of many .

  4. pre meditated terrorism on a genocidal scale .we all live on this planet evil will loose in the long run its happened many times

  5. so John McCain and Linsay Graham are traitors….as well as everyone who votes for this bill….and nothing will be done to them….

    America is FUBAR…

    Super Duper Man 1776 Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    YOU ARE FUBAR, THE REAL MEN WILL FIGHT

    jameswaterwolf Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Even though men acknowledge they are screwed ,doesn’t mean we have given up. So many men without weapons will use their minds and knowledge to fight back.

  6. It’s time journalists exposed John McCain, the Hero of Hanoi and the co-author of this latest attack on the US Constitution, for what he really was/is. Contact other POWs and ask them their opinion of McCain. Ask them if they were sworn to secrecy on the issue? From the most reliable sources, McCain was known as the “Song Bird” by his North Vietnamese captors. He liked to sing. That singing cost other POWs, especially the senior POW, additional torture and perhaps jeopardized Navy fliers attacking North Vietnam. Rather than being tried for his possibly traitorous actions as a POW, word is Congress saw fit to close his military records for 85 years. Not too surprisingly since he has also endorsed the Mexican invasion of the US by demanding amnesty for all the invaders. Hey, you young, eager journalists, grab onto this one and shake it like a dog with a snake. There’s a Pulitzer, a book and an exciting movie up that trail. I’m too old for another witch hunt.

    dncholas Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    McCain is a piece of sh*t traitor and I would not be surprised if he was the “Song Bird” in Vietnam by his actions as a senator. He supported amnesty for illegals, he was part of the group that allowed Obama to become president without proving his birth country, and now attacking the very Constitution this country was founded on once again. This entire thing should be investigated deeply and McCain needs to be exposed for the douchebag that he is.

    AggressivelyAwesome Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    doomcroaker

    Great post.

    McCain’s actions have been covered up so well and the unsuspecting people of America most of them have been brainwashed and cannot or will not ever see or know the truth.

    Truth about McCain or truth about what their government has in store of them.

  7. The truth about 9/11 has been widely known for years – 3,000 murdered and thousands more sentenced to horrible illnesses caused by cleaning up their crime. When the criminals in power saw that victims of the murdered and the general public didn’t go out into the streets en-masse to demand justice, they knew that the sheep were ready for shearing.

    dncholas Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”

    -Kay from Men in Black

    AggressivelyAwesome Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    richardzag

    Your post is so very true.

  8. ‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill Set For Final Vote Thursday
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    Possible scenario:

    In the event that this ends up on obamas desk and he vetoes this, he will appear to be the “savior”. He is no savior.

    This too could be a staged event. McCain is in the senate. The House is suppose to write the legislative bills and the senate votes to either approve or disapprove them. IE obamas healthscare bill…ya gotta “pass” it to find out whats in it. Written by a select few in the “House”….not the senate.

    So, since when does legislation go to the oval office without a vote from the House?

    The “House of Representatives”, but, just who is being represented here?

    Any one here been asked to “vote” on this? ………….Right.

    Bravo2…..out

    Peace Frog Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    obama won’t veto this…he will have a televised “signing ceremony”…handing out tootsie rolls

  9. “…empower the U.S. military to operate on American soil, arrest American citizens and cart them off to detention centers anywhere in the world.”

    IT’S HAPPENING! The end of our U.S. Constitution… I just find it impossible to believe Bari won’t sign this damn thing.
    They have a way to go yet but NO DEBATE on this bill???

    I’ll have to remind our troops of the French Revolution where the troops supported the people.

    Super Duper Man 1776 Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    I’VE WAITED 20 YEARS FOR THIS

    THEIR DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST US.

    I CALL FOR A DECLARATION OF IN-DEFIANCE .

    A PLEDGE FROM ALL PATRIOT AMERICANS TO DEFY THIS AND THEM UNTIL SHTF AND WE GO GET THEM.

    I CANT SEE ANYOTHER OUTCOME SHORT OF SURRENDER ON OUR PART AND I DONT SEE THAT EVER HAPPENING.

  10. If the ACT/BILL is Passed ….The National Defense Authorization Act, a provision of which would empower the U.S. military to operate on American soil, arrest American citizens and cart them off to detention centers anywhere in the world……..Its almost DEATH of NATION …Land of the FREE and Home of the BRAVE……….O holy father…Jesus….will be a very SAD day….2…sometime people feel so Helpless….so much confusion..still anger can multiply 10 fold when something like this happens…..that doesn’t mean we ( YOU) lose control…if you are in control mentally , it make it easier to Confront..the demons……
    Best Wishes …guys…

    wildcat Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    What else would there be to sell off to China if the banks have foreclosed homes, infra-structure has been sold off, along with national parks, farms, entire office blocks and energy companies. Guess the only think left is human labor.

    I still can’t believe that millions of homes are being repoessessed, but when I look at the US property websites, they say there are 100 million homes on the market….

  11. To war is to play into the hands of the Enemy…the Enemy isnt a person, its not a nation, its not a race, not a sex, the enemy is in all of us! We could easily end all this by Friday! Stop buying there goods, stop buying there services, stop buying there bullshit! It can crumble in a day, but see that would mean as people we would have to sacrifice! Alot of peoples ego does not allow for sacrafice, and they sure as hell wont do without for a greater cause, so the perpetual cycle goes round in round year in and year out! Same shit, different shovel! WE THE PEOPLE do not have to fire a single shot to win this…simply stop buying, and take care of one another thru what this planet gives us…FYI In the 1940′s at the beginning of WW2, America had about a total of 900 War Planes, due the cost of entering a war they did not have money for, America came together at every corner and cranked out 90,000 the first 2 years…its the collective effort of us all that will provide abundance for us! So when you are ready to make a TRUE change, face your ego and ask it, what do I need and what do I want and what can I do to provide a properous future not just for our children, but for mankind in general! We need to shift our thinking from the accumulation of material wealth to the needs and betterment of our species…whatever color we may be!

    bkr360 Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    A-Men to that.

  12. Hello Sheeple:
    Got to say it.. LOCK AND LOAD
    This will be the war to end all wars…. condor6 OP 40

  13. I sure hope all of you start carrying guns 24 hours if this bill is implemented. We will not have a choice.

  14. Geez, a country run by madmen and crooks

    Remember, your one and only duty as an American is…to protect the Constitution at all costs,

    sounds like the Obamanites want to run-play the civil war…. and this time they will be fighting to enslave americans…

  15. life’s a gamble, and you might lose.

  16. Apparently the bill has passed the Senate:

    www(dot)huffingtonpost(dot)com/2011/11/29/senate-votes-to-let-military-detain-americans-indefinitely_n_1119473(dot)html

  17. How scary is this? You have a couple dozen people commenting on engaging in an armed struggle with the federal government. The consensus is to start shooting when they come to pick you up. This is a conversation that should come across as crazy. Unfortunately, this is not crazy talk.
    This website has some of the most informed readers around. Look at the comments on the LA or the NY Times. Those people sound nothing like the ones in here. I think it is awesome that no matter if you are a OWS supporter or a hard core right wing militia member, we are on the same team. We are all being crushed by the bankers/NWO. The time to fight is now.
    If anyone is visited by law enforcement for something you posted, tell everyone. Never, never, never be quiet.

    jameswaterwolf Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Everyday conversation with people tells you that they are unwilling to fight the gov’t. They have been totally molded to be unabled to be aggressive against the “Leader”. Dead Man Walking straight into the FEMA Camps.

  18. Fukk america, or is it amerikka is fukked? Either way, I got mine. Fukk the us government, fukk the us military and fukk you amerikka. Family is all that matters now, keep yours close. My girl is home schooled, get yours out of the government kennels, called public schools, while you can. They are built like prisons and use the same terminology; like lock down. It dont get no more real when they tell you that. Dont wait until its too late: they will be the bait they use to bring you in quietly.

    The dream is over. We cannot be drugged, sexed or divorced anymore into submission. Soft tyranny was a bitch, anyway. Hard tyranny will be much more fun and exciting and involve everyone. All of you who never served in the armed forces, when it mattered, well I guess you are on your own. I knew this day would come when I drove out the gates of Camp LeJeune for the last time in early spring , 2004.

    I have been preparing for this all my life. Bring it on american pussies, my time in Iran and China was not wsted after all. Have a nice day.

    Re-calculating…

    bkr360 Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    If you love this country, quit saying fuck Amerikka and defend America from those who want to destroy it. We in here are all on the same side, I hope. The people of this country have been deceived and it is our duty as patriots to protect the Constitution and for what it stands for. I will stand at your side and fight but if I could. Its the Militia that we need to support and I am all there when the time comes….

  19. I don’t know why but I’m compelled to do so, why are you people bickering?
    now back to my statement, when are we the people going to march into our congress and arrest all of those who voted for an unconstitutional super congress? When are we going to march into the white house and arrest Obama for 4 counts of treason? when? After we get our rights stripped away? After we get locked away in internment camps? We the people have more power than the police or any other unconstitutional police force, arrest the police for violating your first amendment rights. Arrest the lobbyists, bankers, and insurance companies. Remove them entirely, we don’t need them.

  20. Someone pleeeeeease tell my WHY the Republicans are throwing Obama a bone? This makes every single person in the Senate, mostly Republicans, look like 100% TRAITORS to the American people and the Constitution (with the exception of Rand and that other guy). If Obama vetoes the bill, it’ll make him look like he “saved” the American people from the evils of the Republicans (and a few democrats). If he signs the bill then it essentially shreds the US Constitution when enforced and will require lawsuits and whatnot that could take years… to get it repealed or “officially” declared Unconstitutional. It’s OBVIOUS that it’s 100% Unconstitutional… so why make it up? Why make it up now? Unless this is the horribly bad “acting” of the “players” in order to set the stage for Obama’s re-election??? What am I missing here?

  21. Noriega was white? I want some of whatever you’re smokin’.

    ickybiker Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    emus….you can be part of the problem, or be part of the solution. Stop being part of the problem.

  22. ickybiker says:
    November 30, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Noriega was white? I want some of whatever you’re smokin’.

    Reply
    Reply

    ickybiker Reply:
    November 30th, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    emus….you can be part of the problem, or be part of the solution. Stop being part of the problem.

  23. What is missing here is the 300 million people of this country standing up with there guns and marching on Washington. If the movement started I will follow. There has to be an organized start for the ball to start rolling. We need a good push and once the snow ball starts rolling downhill it will grow so large it can not be stopped and when it hits it will destroy anything in its path. The time is NOW to make the push to get the ball rolling…

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