Breaking: Turkish or American F16s Down Russian Fighter Over Syria (updating) – Veterans Today


Putin:  “We will never tolerate crimes like this!”


Official sources inside Syria indicate that one pilot was captured alive and is being held.  The group featured in the video below are part of the new US backed “rebel” force, a mercenary group led by Turkish intelligence officers.  The Pentagon has issue a denial of involvement in the downing of the Russian plane over Syria but has been unable to provide any proof to back up their statement.

Map supplied by al Jazeera shows plane downed over Syria

Map supplied by al Jazeera shows plane downed over Syria


Al Jazeera is reporting, not only are both pilots dead, executed by US backed “moderate terrorists,” but that Turkey also downed a Russian rescue helicopter as well.

VT is staying in contact directly with government sources in both Russia and Syria during this crisis.

Reuters Says Pilots Murdered by Turks Inside Syria


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Both of the pilots were dead on retrieval. Our comrades opened fire into the air and they died in the air,” Alpaslan Celik, a deputy commander of a Syrian Turkmen brigade and Colonel in Turkish intelligence.

He was speaking near the Syrian village of Yamadi, according to Reuters. Celik held what he said was a piece of a pilot’s parachute.

A graphic video posted earlier on social media purported to show a Russian pilot lying on the ground surrounded by a group of men praising Allah.

The men reportedly regretted they hadn’t burned him on the spot.

The video was sent by a rebel group operating in the northwestern area of Syria, where groups including the Free Syrian Army are active but Islamic State has no known presence.

Jahed Ahmad, a representative of the 10th Brigade in the Coast, the rebel group that attacked the pilots, told AP that at least one of the Russian pilots was dead upon landing.

A Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down by Turkish fighter jets near the Turkish-Syrian border on Tuesday.

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Turkish or perhaps American F 16s shot down a Russian SU 24 over Syria stating it had gotten “too close” to their border. Initial reports say one pilot is dead, one captured by al Nusra terrorists inside Syria.  The plane was hit 1 kilometer inside Syria at an altitude of 6000 meters and crashed 4 kilometers inside Syria.

Turkey’s move today is a clear sign of the weakened condition of the Obama administration and their inability to control rogue military factions in both the Pentagon and NATO.

President Putin personally confirms the attack was over Syrian territory.

Erdogan’s insane actions were done in consultation, according to sources, with Senator John McCain, unsuccessful presidential candidate and current head of the Senate Armed Forces Committee. McCain is said to have made assurances to Turkey that NATO commander, General Phillip Breedlove, would “personally” extend the protection of American strategic nuclear forces over Turkey if a direct confrontation with Russia ensued.

McCain assured Erdogan, according to sources, that the Pentagon was ready to move against Obama and that Russia, knowing this, would back down.  What Erdogan fails to grasp, however, is that McCain, rumored to be increasingly mentally unstable, represents a groups of “End Times” religious extremists which include Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and all but two of the huge field of Republican presidential candidates to whom nuclear apocalypse has long been a goal.

Moreover, the 3 recent “events,” the Sinai “crash,” the attack on the Crimea power grid and the downing of the SU24 are pure provocation.  Ostensibly, this is an American move, we believe, to convince the Saudi’s and Gulf States that America is not abandoning the Middle East and is ready to play “brinksmanship” with Russia as it had done at the height of the Cold War.  It is also based on an American assessment of Putin himself, that he is a pragmatist and will back down.

The strong political divisions within the US, a weakened State Department and a deeply divided Department of Defense, along with a congress controlled by special interests, has allowed Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel and Ukraine to “go rogue” against Russia.  Only Israel’s Netanyahu has key, just possibly, the option of backing out of the secret American “cabal” that is targeting Putin.

One might also note that the recent Russian naval exercises in the Eastern Mediterranean and the concurrent closing of commercial air space over the region was in response to a recognized threat of a USS Liberty type attack on a Russian vessel.  Such an attack may well have been in the offing.  Today’s event, placed in context, has to be taken as a planned provocation.

There is no way of proving Americans planes weren’t involved in this incident.  This is the second such incident in recent days, with a Russian airliner over Egypt shot down in all probability by a NATO fighter only miles from the Israeli border during “exercises.”

Putting accuses Turkey of being “an accomplice to terrorists.”

“Instead of contacting us immediately Turkey addressed their  NATO partners  — as if it was us who downed their plane, not vice versa. Do they want to put NATO at the service of ISIL? “

The Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed the attack took place over Syria.  From Sputnik News:

Russia’s President Vladimir Putin called the downing of an Su-24 fighter jet in Syria a stab in the back at a meeting with the King of Jordan Abdullah II in Sochi.

Vladimir Putin

The Russian Su-24 military aircraft that crashed in Syria earlier in the day was downed by an air-to-air missile from a Turkish plane, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin said Monday.

The attack on Russia’s Su-24 jet is a “stab in the back”, the president said.

Vladimir Putin stressed that Russian pilots were in no way a threat to Turkey. “This is an obvious fact.”

Russia’s president stated that the Su-24 incident in Syria steps over the boundary in the conventional war against terrorism.

“This event goes beyond the fight against terrorism. Of course, our servicemen are engaged in a heroic struggle against terrorism, not sparing themselves or their own lives. But today’s loss is related to a stab in the back, carried out against us by accomplices of terrorists. I cannot otherwise describe what happened today,” Putin said at a meeting with Jordan’s King Abdullah II.

According to the Russian leader, the aircraft was around a kilometer (0.6 miles) from Turkey when it was hit.

“Our aircraft was shot down over Syrian territory by an air-to-air missile from a Turkish F-16. It fell on Syrian territory, four kilometers from the border with Turkey. When attacked in the air, it was flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters, one kilometer away from Turkish territory,” Putin said.

Abdullah II expressed his condolences and stressed the need to join forces in the fight against the Islamic State.

Russia and Jordan must join efforts in the fight against terrorism, Vladimir Putin said, adding that military and special forces are already working in that direction.

Earlier Tuesday reports came in that the Russian Su-24 jet crashed in Syria. It was most likely downed by a ground missile, according to the Russian Defense Ministry’s statement.



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13 Responses to “Breaking: Turkish or American F16s Down Russian Fighter Over Syria (updating)

  1. Seriously guys. All respect but to mention Rand Paul along with Graham, and calling Paul an “End Times religious extremists”…is just way over the top wacko. Sorry.
    I dont understand from where you would get such a thing.

  2. Turkey = Poland prior to ww2. I think only polish people suffered as a result. The leaders safetly bailed themselves out after the war.

    Though with modern weapon Putin should take down erdogen exclusively.

  3. Russia should now go on a immediate “aware alert” for all its bordering territories involving US controlled proxies that might (God forbid) shoot down any Turkish military or civilian jet as a false flag pretext “revenge” for shooting down military jet. Especially Eastern Ukraine.

  4. dear end timers,
    be careful what you ask for

  5. Unfortunately an incident, not an accident, waiting to happen. That it happened just a few days after Russia destroyed the tankers carrying looted oil to BMZ /Bilal Erdogan begs the likelihood of co-incidence or happenstance..
    If Erdogan Snr. is taking advice from John McCain he is more of an idiot than he looks. I can’t remember but I think one of your writers dubbed him, McCain the insane. Mind you, it is more than a little scary that he (McCain) still holds the position that he does

  6. n an earlier post in VT when the Russian operation started I wrote it was a certainly Turkey would look to down a Russian plane and create an incident. I’m not claiming any percent abilities, as it was clear from the start that this was Turkey’s intent. US complicity joined in early with the support of the MSM (reports of civilian casualties, collateral damage, bombing of hospitals), NATO’s assertions that early reports of Russian violations of Turkey’s airspace were “serious”, McCain calling for sophisticated MANPADS to be supplied to “God knows who”. I think of the irony, I live in a start where my governor requires me to register an AR, or indeed any semi-auto with a pistol grip or thumb hole stock, yet the US enables the proliferation of small arms, MANPADS and TOWS to terrorists. Putin has been smart, exposed the game for what it is, and even is siding with France (who months earlier cancelled the Mistral contract). I’m certainly sorry for the fate of the Russian airmen. Keep us informed, VT.

  7. The pilots had safely ejected from their plane, but the bruises on their heads and faces show they were later killed by the so-called MODERATE terrorists, …

    It’s crystal clear that the pilots’ bodies are not wounded and their clothes are not torn …

    • Very sad that these bunch of maniacs respect nothing … no religion … no humanity …

  8. This was no surprise, I was just waiting for the day. It happened sooner than I expected. As calm and collected as these Russians are, I’d be spitting fire about now. Erdogan needs a bitch slap with a 2×4 right about now. Putin wiped out Erdogan’s cheap oil, that “fell off the truck” by bombing that 3 mile long stretch of oil tankers, all that free cash lost, he must be blind with rage. In my mind that’s the only reason for this. Cut off the money supply and it’s all out war for these maniacal bastards.

  9. Baiting President Putin!


  10. Rothschild Kazharian mafia capo of Turkey’s son is believed to be involved in the illegal sale of stolen crude products to Western companies like BP and Exxon Mobil..This is payback for the destruction of
    over 1000 tanker trucks effectively wiping out this terrorist business venture….

  11. That’s hotter than heck.

  12. How dependent is Turkey on Russian gas?

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