Call me a prophet of doom if you want, but Europe’s meltdown isn’t a recession

By
Mitch Feierstein

10:00 EST, 25 July 2012

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12:21 EST, 25 July 2012

Those financial forecasters, like myself, who take a generally dark view of world affairs are known by a number of monikers: prophets of doom, killjoys, pessimists, Cassandras. And that last one is interesting.

Cassandra, in ancient Greek myth, was the daughter of King Priam of Troy. After Helen, she was considered the most beautiful woman on earth. Curly red hair, blue eyes, fair skin. (I know: she sounds more Irish than Turkish, but work with me.) Because of her beauty, the god Apollo fell in love with her and gave her the gift of prophecy. When she did not return his love – always a dangerous game when dating a god – he cursed her, ensuring no one would ever believe her prophecies.

But Cassandra saw it all coming: the Trojan war, the Trojan horse, the fall of the city and the slaughter of its citizens. She explained clearly and repeatedly what was happening. And no one believed her. Even after her early forecasts had proved to be bang on the money, still no one believed her. Even as the Trojan horse, bursting at the joins with Greek soldiers, trundled up to the gates of Troy, no one believed her.

Greece: We can't see the 10-year depression just yet - but that doesn't mean it's not coming

Greece: We can’t see the 10-year depression just yet – but that doesn’t mean it’s not coming

So Cassandra feels like a good term to apply to people like me. (I’ve never been wooed by a goddess and cruel observers might suggest I’m very slightly past my physical peak, but I’m trying to focus on the prophesy side of things here. Work with me, folks.)

I’ve said for ages that the euro will fail, that the countries of the Mediterranean are bankrupt, that Germany doesn’t have the resources to fill the void, and that the Western world is entering not a recession, but a depression: a huge, 10-year, economic slump.

And here we are. If you look outside the city gates right now, I think you’ll find a giant wooden horse with a trapdoor in its belly. Because I’m a Cassandra, you won’t believe me of course, but I’ll give it a try anyway. That’s what I’m fated to do.

So number one, the interest rates on Spanish government debt are now heading up towards 8%. If you want to borrow money from the bank, you can likely do it cheaper than that. You personally may have a better credit rating than the Spanish government right now. In any case, a government can’t pay those punitive rates when its debt is gaping, its deficit out of control, and its economy in recession.

There’s muttering about a €300 billion bailout, which would keep Spain away from the financial markets for three years, but so what? For reasons I’m about to come to, I don’t think such a bailout could possibly happen, but even if it did, so what? Spain’s problem is too much debt piled onto a creaky economy. That €300 billion ‘bailout’ wouldn’t be a gift, it would be a loan. The solution to too much debt is not more debt. (And, for that matter, Mr King, the solution to weak money is not to print an endless supply of the stuff.) Naturally a giant bailout would kick the problem down the road, but bankruptcy is bankruptcy no matter when you meet it.

That’s point one. Point two is that Germany (and creditworthy northern Europe in general) is coming to the end of its borrowing capacity. There’s no reason at all why the German government should fail to meet its obligations, but it can’t be the Atlas that shoulders all the burdens of its southern neighbours too.

The ratings agencies have noticed this. Germany is now on credit watch for possible downgrade. If Germany commits to a monster bailout of Spain (not directly, of course, but via some Euro acronym), that downgrade would happen faster than Helmut Kohl could guzzle a schnitzel. Because Germany knows this, and because its citizens know it, those German purse strings are going to be drawn ever tighter as eurozone discussions progress. And quite right too. Germans have worked hard to restrain wage costs, export goods, innovate new products, and boost productivity. There’s no reason on earth why the fruit of those efforts should be handed out to economies which have steered a very different course.

Germany is now on credit watch for a possible downgrade. No wonder Angela Merkel is showing the strain

Germany is now on credit watch for a possible downgrade. No wonder Angela Merkel is showing the strain

Point three: the terrible data, released today, about the British recession. I said we were in recession back in autumn last year. (No one believed me but, hey, I’m used to it.) And now we find that we’ve actually had three successive quarters of recession, with the last quarter the worse of the lot. Even if things turn up – and, pardon me for asking, but do you see any grounds for optimism right now? – we’ve still experienced the worst recession in British economic history. Not a bit worse than the Great Depression but, by now, very significantly worse.

Like I say, I’ve been saying all this for a while. Me and Cassandra both. The Greeks are coming. There’s going to be war. It’ll last for ten years. That wooden horse looks mighty iffy to me. 

And no one listens. Maybe it’s nothing to do with being cursed by a God. Maybe it’s just the way with people who tell the truths that people don’t want to hear. But we Cassandras just go on prophesying anyway. There’s a big storm coming and it’s about to strike.

Mitch Feierstein is CEO of Glacier Environmental Fund and author of Planet Ponzi: How bankers and politicians stole your future

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After mentioning Gordon in my last posting I was reminded of his famous idiotic claim . NO MORE BOOM AND BUST.
For those old enough to know the song the laughing policeman think of Gordon saying that and sing along with the chorus.
I’ll start you off ,HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA .
WHAT AN IDIOT

Any clear thinking person knows this to be true, and has known it for a long time .
Without the massive debt problem of the western world ( not global Gordon ) the euro may have been able to survive, but the ludicrous borrowing binge as if it were never going to have to be paid back has blown up in our faces.
The world is changing,and changing faster than we might want.
To survive in the world economy we will need very unpopular changes to be made to attitudes and expectations and nobody wants to vote for that.

Times up! with 20-30 years of european socialism its now time to pay up. Quiting europe now won’t make any difference, there’s no where to go and no where to hide. Maybe people will learn.

Well Mitch I to must have the quality’s of Cassandra as from the outset of the Euro I have been predicting this disaster.. I’m no economist or financial guru but a Chimp could, or should have seen this scenario unfolding. So it dosen’t say to much for the LSE does it ( London School of Economics ).

Back to the Titanic analogies. Cameron and the rest of the fanatics for the Euro project and their blind faith that the EUSSR cannot fail remind me of those aboard the Titanic who ridiculed those climbing into the lifeboats soon after it had struck the iceberg. They too claimed that staying aboard the ship was the only thing to do because it could never sink, and besides, it was more dangerous in a tiny lifeboat all alone on the big wide dangerous ocean.
The Euro is the iceberg and the rest of the pieces in the analogy don’t need explaining, they’re obvoius. The question is, will our EUSSR besotted politicians remove their blinkers and launch our lifeboat with us in it or will the continue with their present delusions and keep us locked below decks whilst the icy waters close over our heads?

List the countries that can’t repay their debts. Greece, Italy, Spain, France, UK, Portugal etc. Banks, pension funds, local councils own this debt. They won’t get paid. Banks will go broke. Local councils will go broke. They have debt they won’t be able to pay. Pension funds will go broke. They have pensions to pay that they won’t be able to pay. Private debt hit 240% of GDP in 1930 triggering the great depression. Despite the deleveraging now on, debt to GDP is still higher than in 1930. Government borrowing has avoided depression thus far. The author is quite correct. This will be a depression. Governments will flood economies with cash, triggering double digit inflation before the final washout hits.

“After Helen, she was considered the most beautiful woman on earth. Curly red hair, blue eyes, fair skin. (I know: she sounds more Irish than Turkish, but work with me.)”
Erm excuse me but the Turks didnt come to Asia Minor until the 12th Century!!! That is some very very poor journalism.. Its like talking about a jet fighter during medieval times…

Instead of telling how clever you are predicting all this misery, tell us how to get out of it.- wt, leicester uk, 25/7/2012 22:20 – Um, didn’t you read the article and come to the conclusion the excellent article alluded to? Let me help: Ditch the latte sipping siesta loving southern states. Stop making more debt. Get off you striking backsides are work for a living. Get out of denial and face the problem of debt head on…..etc. Read it again and concentrate!

Instead of telling how clever you are predicting all this misery, tell us how to get out of it.

Time for the UK to GET OUT, before the EU drags us down the plughole.

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