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djosiris
October 9, 2011
The guy in the above video is Ivan Marovic. That name probably doesn’t mean much to you, because I know it didn’t mean much to me until I did some further digging. It turns out that Mr. Marovic is the co-founder of Otpor!. Otpor! was a key organization in the Serbian Wars in the 1990s and was also an influence in the Egypt uprisings. If you believe the below documentary then Otpor! is a group of professional revolutionaries.
This is information about Ivan Marovic from Source Watch.org
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ivan_Marovic
Ivan Marovic, Serbia and Montenegro
“Along with a group of other Serbian student leaders, Marovic formed the OTPOR (“Resistance”) movement in 1998. OTPOR used popular protest and peaceful provocation to build anti-Milosevic support in the 1999-2000 period. Although OTPOR started by mobilizing young people, it quickly expanded into a mass movement with members from all sectors of society. As one of the most visible leaders of OTPOR, Marovic best represented the common youth of Serbia and organized rallies and marches in the lead-up to the September 2000 election that ousted the Milosevic regime. After 2000, OTPOR focused on building democratic society in Serbia and opposing corruption. OTPOR has become a model for resistance movements in other countries, including Georgia, Ukraine, Belarus and Albania.”
The thing they will not tell you about Mr. Marovic and his good friend Srdja Popovic, who were the leaders of OTPOR, is that that organization and they were all sponsored by the CIA. Their handler was William Montgomery, who was coordinating their actions from the CIA Headquarters for Southern Europe in Budapest, Hungary. Wm. Montgomery later became U. S. Ambassador in Post Milosevic Serbia.
I have been quite skeptical of the Occupy movement since it suddenly sprang up out of nowhere in the last couple of weeks. While I have been in full support of the “End the Fed” movement, I am suspicious of any “grassroots” movement that immediately gets corporate media support. I recall there being nationwide “End the Fed” rallies in 2009 that received little to no mainstream media coverage.
When I heard Van Jones along with various union bosses claim their support for the Occupy movement in recent weeks, it confirmed for me that this Occupy is essentially the Tea-Party version of the extreme progressive political agenda. Van Jones even recently discussed an “October Offensive” that would be used to counter the Tea Party.
However, the list of demands from Occupy Wall Street website sounds like a wet dream of someone with a very strong socialist and communist agenda. In fact, these demands read like a new-age version of some bootleg Karl Marx list.
I was willing to jump on board with this Occupy group until I read this list, but after reading this list, I see that it is just another group with an agenda and I have no desire whatsoever to be affiliated with an organization that is promoting that agenda. If this group truly wants to get me involved with them, then:
Where is the demand for the repeal of the PATRIOT Act?
What about ending the international wars of aggression?
What about ending the opium trade in Afghanistan?
What about ending the Presidential-ordered killings of US citizens without a court hearing and due process?
What about actually demanding criminal accountability on Wall Street (as the name of the group might imply) and in other financial arenas?
Where is the demand for the disposition of the bankers’ stolen loot and gains over the years?
What about the end of warrantless wiretapping and spying by the government and telecoms?
What about an end to the Federal Reserve?
What about the nexus and conflict between former government regulators receiving lucrative private sector jobsfrom the very companies/industries they were regulating?
What about the end of torture?
I came up with those demands without even picking up a book or doing a real thorough analysis that I would have done if I was organizing a movement. Please note that I didn’t include any of the numerous conspiracy theories previously discussed on this blog. However, instead of any of the above, the Occupy movement focuses on things that will never happen or will lead to outright Civil War. Namely, it focuses on the same issues that I have seen in numerous progressive/union/left-leaning/communist literature. In fact, when I was way more naive back in 2006, I ran a political campaign with a platform that was somewhat similar in certain areas. Fortunately, my ideology has evolved.
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Here are the Occupy Wall Street demands (along with my annotations):
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Why not tax the profits of American corporations who incorporate and operate in other nations simply for the avoidance and payment of taxes? The only problem is that most major corporations are multinational. If US imposes strict regulations or taxes, the corporations will simply remove all (or curtail a material portion) of its operations from the United States market to a more favorable market.
If the tariffs are too costly, then the corporations will pass those costs along to the American consumers who will no longer be able to afford the foreign goods. A void would potentially exist for American companies to produce these goods, but the current government regulations are barriers to entry for anyone aside from international investors. $20 an hour minimum wage would never work. It would kill more jobs than it would save. Many businesses do not make enough money to pay its employees $20/hour, so it would have to terminate staff. A rise in minimum wage for everyone would also cause inflation, because everyone would be making more money.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
I agree that the insurance industry is a huge issue, but allowing the federal government to run all of health care would be even worse. I wouldn’t necessarily be against some type of federally subsidized program for basic health needs, but I am against any federal mandate that everyone has to buy insurance.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
That would never work. Why would someone ever work a difficult or dangerous job?
Demand four: Free college education. I agree that education should be available to anyone who wants to pursue it, but how does one pay for free college education for everyone? Who will pay the teachers? Buy the library books? Build the dormitories? If every college will be 100% federal government-funded, then the federal government will controlling all of the colleges/universities in the country. I certainly would never agree to that scenario. If they want to help college students, remove the ridiculous profits in the private student loan industry.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
This is pie-in-the-sky stuff unless the government is willing to release all of its black-ops technology where it is alleged that free energy like Mr. Fusion does exist. Assuming that free energy does not exist yet, then there is no way to transition out of fossil fuels without decimating the economy. Further, the so-called “green energy” push by the government is a scam as evidenced by the recent political scandal in the solar energy industry. Our current state of technology is not a viable substitute for fossil fuel energy. It may make someone feel good to drive a Prius, but what happens when the world runs out of the rare earth metals needed to construct the battery technology?
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Where do we get $1,000,000,000,000 from when the country is broke? Should we just print it up on the Federal Reserve printers? Borrow it from China?
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.
As in the previous Demand, where do we get $1,000,000,000,000? I agree on the decommissioning of the nuclear plants, because radiation is a curse on this planet. However, this Demand conflicts with Demand Five, because nuclear is considered alternative energy. Nuclear accounts for 20% of the power in the country. What will be the substitute for nuclear while these power plants are being decommissioned? Further, if you reestablish all wetlands, that means destroying all dams and canals. 6% of US power comes from hydroelectric, so that along with nuclear would wipe 26% of the US electrical power capacity. If you take this Demand into account with Demand Five, we would essentially have to live in the Dark Ages with no fossil fuels, nuclear power, hydroelectric or coal.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
More pie-in-the-sky stuff. There is already an Equal Protection Clause in the Constitution that supposedly grants equal protections in connection with government and State action, but it has been abused by Courts since the late 1800s. A proposed Equal Rights Amendment failed in the 1980s. Additional Amendments addressing these social issues would only cause more court cases and more confusing, judicial rulings that would still favor those people with the economic resources to game the legal system. The country simply needs to enforce the laws and regulations that are currently on the books.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
If you are pro-illegal immigration, then you will love this one. I am anti-illegal immigration and I believe in national sovereignty, so I do not agree with this Demand either. I do agree that people should be able to travel, work and live wherever they want, but it shouldn’t be an unfettered right to do anything one wants to do. I can’t move to another country and expect to do whatever I want to do.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
I agree that our election system is corrupt, but international elections are no better and in many cases, worse. I do believe that there should be a paper receipt for all votes that can be manually reviewed in case of any issues.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
I would love for all my student loans to be wiped off of the books, but wiping this debt out would not solve the problem. Legit debts need to be paid. Otherwise, wiping these debts out would simply create hyperinflation. Food isn’t going to magically appear on your table. Your kids’ clothes aren’t going to magically sprout from a cottonseed. Gas isn’t going to magically appear in your tank. Your cell phone and Internet bills will not pay themselves. If the economy goes into hyperinflation, most of these things will either disappear or become in very short supply very quickly. However, I do AGREE that all fraudulent debts and instruments need to be canceled and the originators of these instruments need to be criminally and civilly tried in Court.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
I don’t really use credit anymore, but I do understand that some people need it to build businesses. I wouldn’t outlaw credit reporting agencies, but I would curtail some of these agencies’ powers.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
What does this have to do with 99%? I’m not in a union and have never really wanted to be in a union. I don’t have a desire to pay someone money for the “right” to negotiate on my behalf. It sounds like the mob to me. Union membership may be important to some, but it is an irrelevant issue to me and when I hear people pushing it as a major issue, then I know it’s really a political issue!
There are a couple of decent points in those demands, but a majority of them are as unrealistic as me swimming to the Moon.
I bet most of these folks protesting and occupying these locations are great people who have the best intentions. However, I am reminded of that old statement about the pavement on the road to Hell. Sometimes when I write these blog articles, I hope I am wrong about my statements and this is one of those times! But….
At the end of the day, it seems like the anger in the streets has been (or will be) co-opted by the professional revolutionaries and all of their affiliates of the extreme progressive agenda.
Updates:
Obama’s CIA Director Leon Panetta’s Communist Ties
Barack Hussein Obama, protégé of Frank Marshall Davis and Bill Ayers, isn’t the only member of the current misadministration with communist ties. Look what Accuracy in Media has learned about current CIA director and Secretary of Defense nominee Leon Panetta:
The evidence shows that Panetta had a close and personal relationship with a member of the Communist Party by the name of Hugh DeLacy, whose record included meeting with communist espionage agents.
Still more disturbing is the evidence they did not find:
http://rightwingnews.com/democrats/leon-panettas-communist-ties/
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
See, the White house even admits to supporting them..
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2005/02/20050224-3.html
Background on Participants “champions of Freedom”
February 24, 2005
BACKGROUND ON PARTICIPANTS
“CHAMPIONS OF FREEDOM”
Ivan Marovic, Serbia and Montenegro
Along with a group of other Serbian student leaders, Marovic formed the OTPOR (“Resistance”) movement in 1998. OTPOR used popular protest and peaceful provocation to build anti-Milosevic support in the 1999-2000 period. Although OTPOR started by mobilizing young people, it quickly expanded into a mass movement with members from all sectors of society. As one of the most visible leaders of OTPOR, Marovic best represented the common youth of Serbia and organized rallies and marches in the lead-up to the September 2000 election that ousted the Milosevic regime. After 2000, OTPOR focused on building democratic society in Serbia and opposing corruption. OTPOR has become a model for resistance movements in other countries, including Georgia, Ukraine, Belarus and Albania.
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Notice Ivan’s “repeat after me” technique. What a dick. I could take care of this prick with a bus ticket and a hundred bucks. Just speculating.
Social movements, if they are legitimate, should come from the people. At least that is what most think. There are obviously other hands at work during the process which is easy enough to catch, but who? Finding out who are the people of influence directing things and providing the money is difficult. The ‘real’ agenda is often recondite. But, if, people look close, or if they care to examine any of these activities and just ask simple common sense questions, it is easy to spot the fraud. Just like demoralization programs take 30 years or more, countering these programs takes just as much time or longer. It is hard to do. A ‘real’ person comes from your neighborhood. He/she is sitting at a table and passing out pamphlets to raise the consciousness of people. Enduring ridicule during the good times as people are on the way to the mall not wanting to be bothered. You know this person, slowly, contacts and associations are built. If you don’t know where they come from, and even then it is hard, why would anyone trust these organizations? Happily I am not a member or associated with any organization. I wouldn’t be apart of an organization I didn’t start so I could know exactly what was going on and what it was about.
abso friggin lutely my MAN. my MAINE man.
man i love ya. nothin gainst gays, but im not gay. i mean that intellectually.
i am in two “movements”: the mid-european zurich “alternative Liste”, the alternative List, and Al Jones’ “movement”, if we can call it that.
I hope, that aligns even with your strictness, TatLp, MyLord.
oh, uhm, this my “alternative liste” is a bunch of united, by still separate, small “left” alternative groups WHO OPPOSE the way of the swiss SP and german SPD, those SCUMBAG SUDO-only LEFTIES, who are BOUGHT and BRIBED, BLACKMAILED because they are led BY SOME PEDOFILES, EASILY CONTROLLABLE, on the VERY TOP.
we are not screwed. THIS TIME, WE SCREW THEM. NAZIS = PEDOS !!!!!!
ESSE DELENDAM!!! TO BE DESTROYED!!!!!
I think Dylan Ratigan and Lawrence Lessig have it right. The problem is the collusion between finance and state, or you could also say business and government or money and politics. Just as our founding father’s saw that there needed to be a separation between church and state, more and more of us are waking up to the fact that there needs to be a separation between finance and government. As Dylan Ratigan says, if we can force this issue to the national level where it HAS to be seriously discussed by the coming presidential election we will have a real shot at created a constitutional amendment that separates finance and government. This one issue will solve so many of the other complaints of OSW and those listed above. When our government can no longer be bought it will no longer be controlled by Wall Street, multi-national corporations, or other special interests.
Thomas H. Greco in his book “The End of Money and the Future of Civilization” also talks about the need to separate finance and government. Dylan Ratigan has a book on this issue coming out in January. Lawrence Lessig has a book coming out soon called “Restore the Republic” that looks at how Congress has been bought. His book offers a solution. I suggest looking into what these three gentleman have to say that I have mentioned.
I think we need to keep our list of demands as short and simple, yet as powerful as possible. The demand that finance and government be completely separated written into our constitution as a constitutional amendment gets at the roots of what allows corruption, and not an attempt, however well meaning, of demanding that one of the symptoms of the problem be ameliorated (which I think is the problem with everyone of the demands of OWS and of the gentleman of the above article).
Check out Dylan Ratigan speaking at OWS, filmed by WeAreChange. He makes many cogent points. One more that I’ll mention is that he says we have to UNITE, left and right, to the real and common enemy: the collusion between government and business/finance. He says we will never succeed in bringing about a more just society as ‘I”. We will only succeed as “we”. And I think we will only be able to come together as “we” if we can focus on a fundamental core issue to destroy the corruption in our society. I have come to see that as the very basic need, before any other issue, to separate finance and government.
One more thing I’d like to say. I think it is great how the above article looks at possible (and inevitable) infiltration by the CIA, or just well-meaning but naive people (such as Michael Moore and his socialist contingent). Though more than fight them, we have to share our perspectives, explore openly the direction we think this potentially powerful OWS movement could go, and speak respectfully and listen open-heartedly to one another. We have to change and have our own mind’s changed through reason and compassion, not through bickering and yelling and name calling.
Let’s move slowly but persistently forward. Together as One.
finance is not the real problem. you are using really good rhetorics, but by far not enough to conviince a cultivated, intellectual european like myself.
the problem is, that some people collaborate with china and other nazis like that, with massmurderers, torturers like saddam first supported, then used JUST as before by Bush etc.-
Holdren, Hansen and osamaObama are continuing that way.
this has got NOTHING to do wITH EVEN MOST RICH people. so some scummies from da skull and bones club let 911 happen, DID IT.
if ye go ahead with your “simple” slogans, you’d kill all rich, like people DID in china since MAO, this EVIL SCUMBAG.
i stick to aaron russo, I do not need your new people. if they speak true, i will endorse them. but do i see ANY point of racism or abuse in their texts, i will SHOW THAT TO ALL. BEWARE.
I DO NOT TRUST YOU, not, never right away, you mista Chris Mar.
there are many good rich people like even my own father. his father had to run away from hitler.
my own father was not sOOO good to me, but still better than others who beat their kids with the belt, even, and other terrible things. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
people, don’t just believe in any run-along person. this ” CHRIS MAR ” here is somewhat doubtful. he seems to want to take over our movement. WILL FAIL, with mine help.
… i see the good intentions in at LEAST what Chris Mar writes — and still, I somehow FEEL what I read is NOT WHAT CHRIS MAR REALLY THINKS.
why do i feel so STRONGLY that he tries to GRIP US BY FALSE BLIND HATRED AGAINST FINANCERS of JUST ALL KINDS?
look at this other chap, stansberry, with his lawful 32 percent clause.
THAT IS GREAT. I don’t own 10’000, sadly. If I’d have 20’000, I would work together with stansberry. and become a little bit richer, why not. to help my political “agenda”, haha. against new world order. hehe. and yes also to SKI maybe more than TWO DAYS in TWELVE YEARS THANK YOU.
djosiris,
I think you are on the money. In essence this is another crisis creation excercise by trained underlings of the powers that be. This particular crisis if it succeeds could leave a leadership vacuum large enough for a global dictator, which is what I believe the ultimate goal has always been. Whether the face they put on it is Barack Obama or some other national socialist figurehead matters very little.
OWS is da CIA you fool.
AL JONES IS OUR LEADER, michael moore, he’s plain too stupid not to be controlled by others.
I mean the Moore folx. In the arab countries, new world order, nazism, antisemitism, is doing FINE and becoming REAL BIG.
OWS is kinda da same.
this mista “DJ OSIRIS” that you, dear Rankin, reply to, this OSIRIS IS EVIL!!! OSIRIS IS DA EGYPTIAN GODESS OF EVIL!!!!!!!! HUAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ABOLISH THE PATRIOT ACT!!! WE ARE THE REAL PATRIOTS HERE!!! I AM JEWISH AND THAT MATTERS, F****CKIN!!!!!
Screw that phony. End the FED!! Get out of bed with the banksters of the world.
He hasn’t been in our country long enought to know what he is talking about. traitor!!!!!!!!
Yea. OWS is LARGELY just CONTROLLED by phonies from that OCPIT or CIA or whatever, this SERBIAN MERCENARY army… don’t think you could be racists against foreigners, this AIN’t about foreigners etc, this is about MERCENARIES who KILL FOR DOUGH, not representing THEIR OWN people, BUT THEIR OWN GREED, their OWN LUST TO KILL. TERRIBLE.
OWS is not the United States. OWS is controlled by CHINA that seeks to OVERTHROW THE WEST. !!!!!!!!!!!
DESTROY THE EVIL MASSMURDER ORGANROBBERY GOVERNMENT OF CHINA!!!! in 2013!!!!
Thanks very much for publishing this from my blog Infowars!!
I can also confirm what poppa says above about Otpor. Last night I contacted a long time friend of mine in Serbia and he told me the exact same information!
hey ima darkie too. in uk thats a condescending term. TS.
what, OUTPOUR or what? OTPOR? OY. sounds like the commie rats that they are.
I am pro Marx, but anti communism. Marx has nothing to DO with commies. !!!!!! Jones, read your history. Marx was ABUSED by commies JUST LIKE OWS is abused by OTPOR or da CIA DIRTY SCUMBAGS THAT THEY ARE. we will kick them out, easy. hehe.
i mean, uhu, hu, ObamaOsama IS da and A commie rat here. whattaya think?
Wall street criminals are in the highest branches of government. We’re screwed.
“hope”, and “change”, all obamaosama jokes and lies.
ANYWAYZE. Wilst thou get some REAL critically conscious “hope” into ya bwaine, United statesians.
WHY does infowars keep doing this? For the 5th time, that “list of demands” for OWS that they INSIST ON CITING is not an official list of demands! There’s nothing official about it. Those are NOT the “demands” for OccupywallSt! Clearly, some random person posted those PROPOSED ideas on a PUBLIC forum where anyone can post. So many so-called “journalists” have written about those demands as official that the site admin had to add a note for the illiterate news media.
Are you a journalist? Then learn how to do basic research! Those are clearly not demands! Reporting them as such does nothing for Infowars’ credibility. You look like a bunch of retards, CONTIUNUALLY linking to those demands and saying “this is what they’re demanding,” when there’s no basis for that in reality. This is what FOX news does. You want to be seen as credible? Stop making up bullshit that is obviously false. THOSE WERE POSTED ON A PUBLIC FORUM. THEY ARE NOT OFFICIAL DEMANDS. WHAT IS SO HARD TO FIGURE OUT? If you’re a journalist, BE ONE. It’s a fucking joke. Figure it out, for god’s sake.
manchild, cool neneh cherry song, btw:
THAT IS WHAT WE MEAN. SOME MEAN SUDO-”intellectuals” “posting” anything that has nothing TO DO with what the GOOD NORMAL PEOPLE SHOUT ON DA STREET, GIVING THEIR BODY AND TIME TO ANY MOVEMENT!!!!
OWS is apparently and quite obviously betrayed by some other people that control even Moore behind HIS own back. People high up talkin “bout them below”. GET DOWN YOUR OWN OTPOR ASSHOLES, or your movement will not fail – but destroy the united states, turning them into the “american union”. OVER MY DEAD BODY. NEVER. NEVER. THIS IS WAR.
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All Trolls Working for the A.D.L.
All Zionist that impersonate Gods Chosen People.
All Christian Zionist that love their ears to be tickled.
All foul mouthed atheists.
And those that take offense to being told that they’re wrong or have been deceived.
The reason I find this post to be important is, WE are under an orchestrated attack. An almost specific attack on the peoples of European and or American descent.
Alex has asked “why is the T.S.A.and D.H.S. seeming to be targeting White people?” Really!? WHY?
You may see why on your own when you finish reading this post. Please read it.
Mrs. Nesta Webster in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, writes:
“The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion have been marvelously correct as prophecy, foreshadowing all of this in a remarkable way, whatever their first origin, before Maurice Joly used part of them in 1864.( This pre-dates the public printing in 1905!)
I think the Protocols deserve our attention! The fact that the A.D.L and the Zionist controlled Media——– are so strongly opposed to us talking about them should in it self be proof that their is something to it!
I have to say here, that I think Alex is a big boy and can handle honest criticism, he has gone a long way to wake people up and brings us tons of good info. But I Find Alex’s’ dismissal of the Protocols as “reads like a comic book” to be “trite” and down right dishonest. That is how the A.D.L, Zionist media and their mind controlled puppets, the “sheeple” does. Whether one thinks they are a forgery or a Anti-Smite creation in NO WAY takes away from the fact that they mirror exactly what the N.W.O. has been putting in place. If you read it you will at least admit that it doesn’t read like a COMIC BOOK! It is every bit as disturbing as G. Orwell’s 1984.
I am screaming at Alex all the time to stop ignoring all of the evidence, whether it “hair lips” every Zionist Jew in the world or not. If the truth is made to sound Anti-Semitic it is the Zionist/Media pundits doing it.The Protocols of Zion, and The True Torah Jews say that anti-semitism is a Zionist creation, and, how it is used for them to hide behind. To be a puppet (knowing or not) of the Zionists, and allowing yourself to be silenced on ANY point, is cowardess at best!
Talking about the Fed Res., vaccines, 911,etc is only addressing the symptoms NOT the disease
OH!! Thats right the Protocols talks about ALL of that, 911 too! (Terrorism), and that they would pollute our faith, I could post from the Protocols and many other sources that agree.
I know that the seminaries were infiltrated long ago (Alex Jones mentioned that fact the other day.) by Masonic/Talmudic Demons, or Wolves if you like, that crept in and polluted the meanings of WORDS like Jew gentile heathen etc. So the lies that were taught in the seminaries for so long have been taught to us, the sheep of Christ. And so, naturally we, trust that the preachers wouldn’t lie to us. Now we find ourselves ignorant of the lies that the ENEMY’S of Christ have poisoned our understanding with. It is OUR responsibility “to secure” knowledge, it is a prize that is key to understanding. its up to us all, each one personally to have understanding!
JEW! That one little word has been a stumbling block to understanding, and it was made so, as to hide from us the truth about Israel so Esau/Edom could present them selves as “Gods Chosen”. We first need to understand who Israel was in the Bible. And the truth about Judah.
Hosea 4:6″ My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge : because thou hast rejected knowledge I will also reject thee..”, it goes on.
Ephesians 4:14 “That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, where by they lie in wait to deceive;…”
I Tim.2:3,4. “For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God or Saviour; Who will have all men be saved,and come to the knowledge of the truth”…..That “truth” is other than salvation.
Strongs Concordance is a Hebrew and Greek Dictionary I will refer to as S.C. Also the King James Version is Quoted. (K.J.V.)
The word Jews first appears in the Bible in II Kings 16:6 ( K.J.V.) And was only, always, every time used with the Tribe and /or House of JUDAH, NEVER the House of ISRAEL or Tribe of Israel. In the Old Testament the Hebrew word is; S.C. 3064 Yehuwdah from the first, and of its territory: Judah.. And one that means Judaize i.e. become Jewish- become a Jew. S.C. 3054. Never ISRAEL.
I point out some omissions and errors I have found in the S.C. You should know that our Bibles have them also, Acts 12:4 says Easter which should read, PASSOVER. K.J.V.
“JEW” (The word Jew mentioned in.John 4:22″ …for Salvation is of the Jews”. is RIGHTLY translated from the GREEK S.C. 2453 it is;” Ioudaios, pronounced ee-oo-dah-yos and means “JUDEAN; AS A COUNTRY i.e.belonging to Judea”. Jesus was from the House of David of the Tribe of JUDAH. NOT A “JEW!” And so it is the same in every place where “Jew” is used.
S.C. 2453 being the only Greek word use in the N.T. leads to many questions. Was there a “conspiracy”?
In the following; Gen. are the Blessings from Jacob/Israel. And Deut. are the blessings of Moses.
Gen. 48: READ IT Jacob who was named Israel blessed his son Joseph Vers. 4 .. Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee; and I will make of thee a multitude of people, and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession. ” Vers. 5 And now thy two sons Ephraim and Manasseh which were born in Egypt, etc. It is commonly known that most of the Prophesies were not fully understood but the faith of the Biblical Patriarchs was unwavering that God would do all that He had promised. All so the word used here, multitude is S.C. #6951 qahal Pron. Kaw-kalw means; assemblage also assembly, congregation company and lastly multitude. This blessing was for Joseph and his two sons only..
Gen, 48:15. “And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God that feed me all my life long unto this day,” 16, “The angel which redeemed me from all evil bless the lads; and let my name be named on them,and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow in to a multitude in the midst of the earth. Notice also he said ” let the name of my fathers” etc. Isaac’s-sons are so named!
The word multitude, S.C. 7230. rabab Pron. raw-bab It means abundance, excellent, great-(ly,ness) number,most.much,multitude, plenty….in that order. This blessing was to all of Jacobs Children, ALL of Israel!
If you read Deut. 33:18 ” And of Zebulun he said, Rejoice, Zebulun, in thy going out; and Issachar, in thy tents”.
Deut. 33:19 “They shall call the people unto the mountains; there they shall offer sacrifices of righteousness: for they shall suck of the abundance of the seas, and of treasures hid in the sand”. Moses was not allowed to go in to the land of Canaan, and he did not know that Zebulun would be land locked by other Tribes and not be on the sea! (Source Bakers Bible Atlas pages 9498 and other books)
Now compare this to the blessings that Jacob, who was named Israel told to his 12 sons.
Gen. 49:13 Zebulun shall dwell at the haven of the sea; and he shall be for a haven of ships; and his border shall be unto Zidon.
If you look up the word for “border” in S.C. you will find 7 different words that are used for BORDER two of those had to do with “armor” or “clothes” and that was what Mr. Strong used S.C.3411. and so you have to look at the other words that are used with it [Zidon], to come to the word that best fits the whole text. S.C. 8193 Heb, word “Saphah” lip, as a natural boundary, bank sea shore.
If you look in a S.C. (6721) we find Zidon; Heb, spelling Taiydon, pronounced tsee-done. means in the sense of “catching fish -fishery”. As you may know,the North Sea and Norway are the most productive “fishery” in the world, I have believed for 30 years that Zebulun is Norway today!
I was going to add my treatment of Asher. IMO they are the Dutch and South Afrikaners.
Can you guess who Ephraim and Manasseh are?
From; Moses’ Song of Joy;
Deut. 32:8, ” When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when He separated the sons of Adam, He set the bounds of the people according to the number of the Children of Israel”.( “bounds of the people” are all but Jacobs seed)
32:9 “For the Lords portion is His people; Jacob is the lot of His inheritance”.
Deut. 32: 26, “I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men,” etc.
If you read it all, Moses is talking about the Children of Israel being punished by God, and given into Assyrian captivity (772 B.C.) and from that, point never again seen in the land of Israel. (Again, Moses did not see the how.)
And when that took place all that remained was a remnant of the house of Judah, Benjamin, half of Levi. They were safe behind the walled city of Jerusalem. And also a small remnant of Asher from the mountainous part of their territory. Luke 2:36,38. “Anna the prophetess”. (source; the Bakers Bible Atlas, 1982 page 98 and many other books) Read The Prophesy of Amos!
It is Pre-Captivity, and future restoration! And has nothing to do with Judah OR JEWS!
And that seems to leave us with one obvious question. Why does the Word of God describe the Children of Israel as;
“The stars of heaven” Gen: 22:17
“A thousand million” Gen. 24:60,
“sands of the sea”. Gen. 22:17 Isa.10:22, Hosea 1:10
The fact that the “Jews” only number around 14 million. Kind of shorts the Bible.
Also “a company of nations” and “a multitude of nations”, Gen.35:11 Gen 49:19
And just how many “JEW” nations are there, or have ever been?
The bible also proclaims that Israel would possess the gate of his enemies.Gen.22:17. Umm, the “JEWS” seem to be SURROUNDED!
Do you get it? “JEW” Has never applied to Israel in the Bible.
Edom/Esau, The Remnant of Judah, the Pharisees and Sadducee’s and the origin of the Babylonian Talmud is my next task.
C/C Alex Jones, You asked for it Alex!
oy. edomsthorn is a nazi.
he wrote: “All Zionist that impersonate…”
I didn’t have to read on. this guy is an antisemite, therefore, already only therefore, a nazi.
GO AWAY FROM HERE, ASSHOLE EDOMSTHORN, WE WANT NO HORNED PEOPLE.
YE ARE NOT WELCOME HERE ANYMORE. I am Jones’ right hand, in my view, concerning my work against fascism of any kind.
GO AWAY. nazis will not anymore blind anybody here. You are ridiculous, EdomstHorn.
Go to the KKK, they will gladly need some harakiri stupid fighter. hehe.
OMG.Another conspiracy theory.As long as they don’t jerk off to Ron Paul,and don’t agree with Alex Jones,then they are terrorists.Alex Jones is a rich man(I presume) and he wants to keep this system at all costs.In my eyes he is no different from the Bilderbergs.
What’s wrong with jerkin’ off to a picture of Ron Paul ?!?
P.S. Don’t you have any feelin’s ?!?
you are a shill and boot off. i know first hand of otpor, so from the bottom of my heart escaltor go blow your oldman off.
al jones, “rich”. oy. what a misinformed idiot you are.
al jones begs for money to do his docus in good quality, and you say he’d be rich.
so, that’s your nickee namee: “Escalator”. What a really BAD EVIL nickname.
We don’t WANT no escalations, NO ESCALATORS. GO AWAY YOU IDIOT. are you OTPOR? are you CIA?
you’ve just been REVELAED to the public here. by me. a fan of aaron RUSSO. hehe. and a fan of alex jones.
otpor! what a bunch of maggots. they were the ones that stormed the serb parliament and demanded the eu man in kostunica become president. beware of otpor they are nwo all the way. they use universities to influence the uni students to create revolutions. if otpor do have anything to do with this occupy wall street movement, then beware and beleive me the whole thing is a scam..
ps, if i also remember correctly they were working together with another masonic mob called the black hand or “crna ruka” in serbian.. the filthy dogs in the cia and nato are still using otpor in serbia.
yea. poppa, your MY pop, my papa. my pope and father. Alex Jones is Jesus Christ. who this time won’t get crucified. hehe. jones will be president. after Ron.
You bet !!!
They’re even payed for it …
P.S. By hook n’ by crook !!! ( especially by crook … )