‘SCAF reluctant to give up power’

The ballot count was reportedly completed on Monday, indicating that Morsi won the presidential race with 51.8 percent of the votes, but that his rival Ahmad Shafiq, who was Egypt’s former premier when ousted dictator Hosni Mubarak was in power, came in second with 48.2 percent.

Earlier on Monday, a member of the Egyptian Electoral Committee also confirmed that Morsi is in the lead in the presidential run-off.

Press TV talks with Mohamed Ghanem, Muslim Brotherhood leader in the UK, regarding the issue. Below is an approximate transcript of the interview.

Press TV: Situation in Egypt is looking very uncertain, but one thing is for sure: the SCAF is moving fast to consolidate its grip on power. Does it matter anymore if Morsi wins the elections?

Ghanem: As before the elections, the Muslim Brotherhood has two choices: to either withdraw as an objection to keep Shafiq in the run in the race or to join. They decided by the majority to go through the election and give the ballot box the decision.

Now we see that Mr. Morsi is leading. Within that period, we have seen the Military Council that did the constitution declaration which almost stripped his power of a lot of authorities he used to enjoy as the head of the state.

Then, whoever comes as the president, he would not have much power and he has to negotiate the risk with the Military Council. It puts the picture in general that whoever comes, the Military Council will be the head of the state.

Virtually, they would be the highest authority and the president has to negotiate with them and compromise in order to do his job. And this is a quite strange situation. Although it is temporary, it is not permanent, but it indicates that the Military Council is hesitating to give up the power to the civil leadership which is democratically elected.

The picture is not clear yet, maybe after tomorrow or after sometimes, the things will become clear and we will try to understand but for sure, the president, whoever is going to come, although we have Mr. Morsi in the lead, he will find himself stripped out of almost his authority. And this is a shame and this is a step back for democracy.

Press TV: Many reports are also indicating that Shafiq who is widely believed to be the SCAF’s candidate is going to be declared the winner of the elections and now the legislative powers, as you just mentioned, are also in the hands of the SCAF. What is the next step for Egypt as far as the Muslim Brotherhood goes?

Ghanem: Well, that is not only as the Muslim Brotherhood, it is up to the Egyptian people. Now the Egyptian people’s patience is really gone. They have waited to the last moment and they have given the democracy and the [power] talks the decision, the decisive instrument.

Now the lead to Mr. Morsi, I wonder, how they are going to declare Shafiq as a winner and especially, one of the things this parliament has done successfully and very beneficial to the Egyptian people is that the counts are going to weaken the [power] talks unit.

Then we will see by our eyes the counting of the votes and everything is clear. It is very difficult and I wonder how we can see the votes in favor of Dr. Morsi and whoever is going to announce Shafiq as a winner.

But this is one issue. The other issue is the declaration by the army which is indicated very clearly that the army is still hesitating to give the power to the civilians.

Press TV: It is indeed but it was the constitutional court that dissolved the parliament as well. So it is not very hard to imagine how it can get Shafiq to be declared as the winner of these elections. But now people are of course are regretting putting their trust in SCAF to safeguard the revolution, but the Muslim Brotherhood has always tried to work hand-in-hand with the ruling generals. Would you say that the party’s position has taken a hit because of that in recent days?

Ghanem: Not really because we understand that the army is holding the power, although we always distinguished between the council and the army itself.

All the soldiers and the army is loyal to Egyptian people but it is running by the council and the council, although it has the power, still they cannot go against the Egyptian people’s will because once they start doing that, they cannot guarantee the loyalty for their staff, the soldier and the officer, because these soldiers and officers obey the leaders, the army council, with condition for their loyalty to the Egyptian people.

Once that relation is broken, then nobody guarantees how those soldiers are going to react. But I hope we will never get to this stage. The stage is not in benefit to anyone, to have the clash with the army now.

He is the protectors of the power and he should, whatever reason he gives, ultimately give that power to the elected leader.

MSK/JR

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