Where Is The #OWS Demand To End The Fed?

October 3rd, 2011

FAKE NEWS for the Zionist agenda

No serious economic protest can ignore the monolithic role of the Federal Reserve

Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com
Oct 3, 2011

In spite of a large number of protesters who are clearly aware of the fact that the greatest threat to the global financial system comes not directly from Wall Street but from the privately owned Federal Reserve cartel, the official “list of specific demands” of the Occupy Wall Street movement makes absolutely no mention of the Fed whatsoever.

By way of reminder lets take a brief look at the Fed’s contribution to the financial black hole the U.S. and the world is now faced with.

While most Americans still believe that the Fed is a government agency, in reality it is a completely privately run entity that has since 1913 had total control over the U.S. monetary system.

The Fed has never been audited and is accountable to no one, not even the Congress.

Essentially, an unaccountable private monopoly creates the money, sets the interest rates, regulates the banking system and makes secret loans to whoever they want.

The Federal Reserve has more power over the U.S. economy than any other institution and nobody can overrule any decisions that they make.

Forget Wall Street for a second, It was the Fed that created unlimited amounts of money and credit out of thin air, fundamentally destroying the possibility of any real sustainable economic growth and ultimately delivering the current financial crisis to the world.

Since that time the Fed has pursued the exact same policy of excessive spending, debt expansion and monetary inflation, thus compounding the problems that caused the crisis in the first instance.

Instead of instituting programs to pay off or liquidate debt, the Fed has twice opted to vastly increase the money supply and continue the devaluation of the U.S. dollar.

The Fed chairman and other officials act as if their unfettered power is a god given right, and they express loathing and contempt when they are simply asked to describe and explain their actions to Congress and the American people.

The Fed has refused to comply with congressional demands for transparency and withheld internal memos, in spite of freedom of information act requests.

Despite court rulings ordering disclosure, the Fed consistently refused to identify the recipients of almost $2 trillion of emergency loans from American taxpayers or the troubled assets the central bank accepted as collateral and dumped on the American people.

The amount of US taxpayer money committed to bailouts by the Fed since 2007 is estimated to be well over $25 trillion. The figures by far exceed the combined cost of major historical events, accounting for inflation, dating back over 200 years.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

When finally a chink of transparency was visible in the Fed’s records via a one-time limited audit earlier this year, mandated by the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, it was revealed that the Fed made $16.1 trillion in secret loans to their Wall Street buddies at the height of the crisis.

Not only did the “too big to fail” banksters and even major foreign banks get trillions in nearly interest-free loans, but the Fed actually paid them over 600 million dollars to help run the emergency lending program! Thus the very financial institutions that caused the financial crisis were paid by the Fed to manage all of these bailout loans.

The top recipients were Citigroup who received $2.5 trillion. Morgan Stanley came in second with $2.04 trillion, followed by Merill Lynch at $1.9 trillion and Bank of America at $1.3 trillion. In addition, approximately $3.08 trillion went to foreign financial institutions all over Europe and Asia.

The Fed banks around the country are largely governed by a board of directors that includes officers of the very banks they’re supposed to be overseeing. As economists and experts such as Joseph Stiglitz – former head economist at the International Monetary Fund (IMF) – have noted, this represents a huge conflict of interest and completely undermines a democratic political system.

Wall Street is entirely dependent upon the Federal Reserve for the criminality it has gotten away with. The banksters are completely aware of this fact, which is why in 2009 the heads of nine of the biggest banks in the derivatives market, including JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and Bank of America, secretly lobbied to keep derivatives under Federal Reserve “oversight” and away from real scrutiny.

As reported by The New York Times, they all met secretly to discuss how to use the lax regulation and institutional secrecy of the New York Fed to shield their credit-default swaps business from prying eyes and attempts at meaningful regulation.

Despite all of this, the Fed has remarkably been provided MORE authority to oversee the economy by the U.S. government.

The Fed has been involved in other unsavory activities as well, such as loaning billions to Colonel Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein and covering up the source of funding for the Watergate burglars. The Fed also shipped billions of dollars to Iraq during the early days of the US invasion, which then went “missing”.

We are barely scratching the surface here, yet it is already obvious that any meaningful protest against the economic hell we are being driven head long into MUST be directed in at least some part, if not in total, toward the Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve system is solely responsible for the U.S. government becoming embroiled in constantly increasing amounts of debt.

As long as the U.S. remains beholden to the Fed, the debt will continue to rise exponentially.

As Thomas Jefferson warned:

I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.

Jefferson wished to see all government debt prohibited outright:

I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution. I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government to the genuine principles of its Constitution; I mean an additional article, taking from the federal government the power of borrowing.

Instead of highlighting such home truths regarding the Fed, the #OWS list of demands calls for the arrest of Wall street criminals “who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial crisis”. Yet it fails to name any potential candidates for arrest, nor does it list any crimes they have committed, instead inserting the sentence “insert list of the most clear cut criminal actions here” and encouraging readers to watch the documentary film “Inside Job”.

While it does make some cogent points regarding the repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933, and the trillions going to waste on overseas invasions, the OWS demands list also calls on Congress to pass the Buffet Rule on fair taxation, which as we have consistently argued, will do nothing to touch Wall Street, but everything to sink what’s left of the American middle class.

As we continue to highlight, the movement, though obviously composed of several diverse and well meaning groups of protesters, seems to be for the most part made up of impressionable liberals who are ripe for occupation themselves by leftist gatekeeper movements such as MoveOn.org.

Ron Paul’s Message to Occupy Wall Street – LETS END THE FED!

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Steve Watson is the London based writer and editor for Alex Jones’ Infowars.net, and Prisonplanet.com. He has a Masters Degree in International Relations from the School of Politics at The University of Nottingham in England.

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96 Responses to “Where Is The #OWS Demand To End The Fed?”

This is exactly what I wondered. Why isn’t it called Occupy the FED?

This is how you can tell all of this is a psy op and controlled.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:47 pm

YES, LETS BURN DOWN EVERYTHING.

JOIN THE AWP AMERICAN TALIBAN DEATH CULT!

“SOCIAL PROGRAMS?? JOBS?? DISASTER RELIEF?? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
THE DEFICIT IS TOO BIG, BLARG-BLARG-BLARG!!!”

ONLY YOUR CORPORATE MASTERS DESERVE A DECENT JOB, HOME, LIFE..

SUPPORT ENTROPY! JOIN THE AWP DEATH CULT! END IT ALL!

dhsn Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:11 pm

Wrong as usual Hoax. End the FED and end perpetual wars for perpetual profit.
Social programs are the dictators way of you selling yourself into slavery. Jobs are the province of business. Disaster relief is to be handled locally.
Freedom is the opposite of entropy.

emus Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:39 pm

Any country where the Zionists control the economy such as US, Britain, France has a hard and sad life for the majority of the people. Zionists spread propaganda about the quality of life in these countries. like in Germany for example, German workers are not happy with the difficulties of their state of affairs. but since Germany pays billions of dollars as part of “holocaust” reparation and for allegedly gassing “six million” Jews they get a happy picture painted about them by the Zionist media. Zionist media sets the standard and not the reality. I think the wall street protesters might not be genuine as well. they are talking about broad general things and not anything specific. so; the movement would lack clear objective and it will go nowhere. elites always create chaos so they can offer their designed solutions using their paid revolutionary leaders as a cover just like the Libyan revolutionaries.
Max, call Michael Moore what he is. A psy operation communist.

He doesn’t want to learn the whole truth, he knows the lies he’s been fed and runs with them. Him and Van Jones are Soros agents as are thousands of others.

This is the new nazi fascist communist movement. If you’re not with their program, then they want you dead. Simple as that. And the students from the universities are brainwashed by the lying scum professors who are communists.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:49 pm

MICHAEL MOORE IS THE REAL PROBLEM!! THIS ONE GUY DESERVES ALL OF YOUR ATTENTION AND YELLOW BELLY THREATS. BECAUSE GETTING ON YOUR KNEES IN FRONT OF YOUR CORPORATE MASTERS IS THE REAL POWER!

SUPPORT CHAOS! JOIN THE AWP DEATH CULT!
I wonder if this is part of the plan of the nwo (no world order)? End the fed, but what’s next?
Yea, that’s what I’m thinking just a big psy op. Anyone that follows this stuff points their finger at the Fed and the Rothschild Zio’s running it. Might all be a tactic to crack down further on any engineered descent while obfuscating who the real culprits are.
Alex Jones way are you taking orders from some commie like Max? I guy who has on YOUR show told people to leave America because it’s evil and move to the middle east?

How do we know you are not an agent from Moscow? It would explain the fake tears you pretend to cry.

vemi Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:10 pm

Yeah. Why don’t you just go appear on all your little friends Russia Today channel if you REALLY want to belittle the Become Wall Streeters!

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:51 pm

ALEX JONES WORKS FOR THE NSA! HIS CODE NAME IS “BLOCKHEAD BREAKER”.
HE HAS TURNED SEVERAL PATRIOTS INTO COMMUNISTS!

WATCH OUT!! HE WILL DO IT TO YOU!
Wow!!!! Very strong message here. Thanks Ron Paul.

RON PAUL 2012

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:52 pm

YEAH,THANKS FOR MORE BLOWHARD NONSENSE. HAVE FUN GETTING 3% OF THE VOTE NEXT YEAR, CRYPT KEEPER…
Alex jones you’ve been pushing this movement for years and now you wanna say its a Obama undercover takeover. Lol you’ve lost your mind. I don’t see the kids with Obama signs in there hands!

vemi Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:20 pm

Yeah! Just what is it about making the economic reform of the Fed in order to fend off economic meltdown and WWIII dependent on adding the further bailout type write-offs of 1 to 1.5 trillion dollars in discounted student loans and oh, say about 2 trillion dollars in housing that rubs you up the wrong way? Whats a little write-off or two?

Tom Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:11 pm

The FED is a private bank unaccountable to anyone. Through inflation/deflation they have brough tthis country to its knees on purpose. The FED needs to die and be replaced, but that won’t do any good unless we replace all the politicians. Don’t be fooled by those folks who were planted there. Nobody wants totalitarian rule and nobody wants the African ass clown reelected.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:54 pm

“The FED is a private bank unaccountable to anyone.” – GEEZ! I THINK BRANIAC MEANT TO WRITE “NO ONE”, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW ABOUT NUTBARS LIKE TOMMY.

YEAH, TOMMY, THEY ARE ALL OUT TO GET YOU! RUN!!
The Federal Reserve Act was passed on Dec. 23, 1913 (without a quorum) and in 1914 we had WWI. The Europeans could not have financed a world war without bringing the US into it. The parasitic banksters had already taken most of the wealth through non stop warfare. Sound familiar ? ! ? !
BEWARE!!! The protesters are being said as having given a list of demands, among which are taxes the FED wants??!?!?!?! I say bullshit!! They did not, but this is the new trick by the NWO: to claim the protesters want what THEY (the NWO) want!! This is how they’ll pass laws from now on unless we stop it!

This is just more unbelievable nonsense that allows them to bypass Congress and any oversight. Hell, they just created a “Super” Congress, where only NWO-supporting members can vote!! This is just plain lunacy, and if we don’t stop it, it will continue.

reconscoutsniper Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:28 pm

Good post Tom

Bravo2…….out

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:55 pm

VERY NUTTY TOMMY! KEEP ‘EM CRAZY!

dhsn Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm

Address the points he raised and refute them if you can.

the sage Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm

And the Constitutional and elected representational form of government for and by the people is no more.

I see swimming pools full of blood…

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:56 pm

CONSTIFUTION?? THAT THING IS NOT CRAZY ENOUGH.

SAGE GETS IT – JOIN THE AWP DEATH CULT, END IT ALL IN POOLS FULL OF BLOOD!!

dhsn Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:17 pm

He didn’t post “constifution.”
“This is exactly what I wondered. Why isn’t it called Occupy the FED?

This is how you can tell all of this is a psy op and controlled.” – BiGpharmakillZ

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You just said it all. I’d be proud to call this succinct, devastating post my own, but you said it before I did. Congratulations.

Is it necessary to add anything? I don’t see what it could be, aside from warning to the American people that if they persist, and learn the truth about the Fed, they run the risk of being categorized as “terrorists,” and quite possibly murdered by their own government.

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So – learn the truth. It IS on the side of liberty and freedom, which is what we’ve always stood for. The money power delegated to the House of Representatives BY THE CONSTITUTION, has been USURPED, because THE REQUIRED CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT WAS NEVER PASSED. The system is illegal, and we are dealing with illegitimate power. The 16th (income tax) Amendment was also NEVER PROPERLY RATIFIED. The IRS is a terrorist organization, engaged in treasonous, terroristic activities against the American people. It tells its thugs, “your badge is your authority,” because there is NO LAW requiring you to file a 1040. Judges from the lower courts, who have conducted “star chamber” episodes and jury-tampered to obtain prosecutions in test cases WILL be held accountable, I believe, in our lifetimes.

These men are guilty of treason and should receive capital punishment.

***

For everything, there is a season. A time to love. A time to hate. This is a time to learn. This system WILL FAIL. Educate yourself on money and banking, and our early history. All this has happened before. Yes, we endured a currency collapse in our early history, and yes, it was owing to a central bank – the same sort of institution we have in the “Fed.”

Get into survival mode. Live, so that you might be among those in a position to dispense justice, when that becomes possible again. WE WILL TRIUMPH. RON PAUL 2012. NO REGRETS. R.U.

reconscoutsniper Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:29 pm

Another excellent post.

Bravo2……..out

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:59 pm

VERY DELUSIONAL! EXCELLENT PARANOID NUTTINESS!

JOIN THE AWP DEATH CULT – “These men are guilty of treason and should receive capital punishment. ” KILL, KILL, KILL!!!! “LET ‘EM DIE,YEAH!!”

dhsn Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:20 pm

AWP Death Cult, official Hoax talking point. Zero originality as always.
Steve Watson: “No serious economic protest can ignore the monolithic role of the Federal Reserve”

Between_the_lines: Watson is not complaining about the “Federal”-Reserve group being an issuer of private currency. He is complaining about it being “monolithic” (Greek for one big rock). He wants MORE issuers of private currency. And he wants the elected government to remain not an issuer of currency, as it has been since 1913. The Ron Paul platform exactly.

The false idea that we need to end “the Fed”, only to REPLACE it with OTHER private issuers of currency, is all over the pseudo-protest press. And Ron Paul is the leading advocate of the idea.

The idea is disinformation put out by the same people who now issue most of the world’s currencies. By this means, they believe they can appease the American protest movement, and still end up owning the new outfits that issue private currency in America. So our governement will stiil print interest-bearing bonds instead of debt-free currency. So our national debt to them will just continue to rise for nothing of value in return. And our national (public + private) debt will continue to be guaranteed to always exceed the money supply.

follow-the-money Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:01 pm

You are NAILING THE ISSUE —- PRIVATE VS PUBLIC issuance of currency and credit.

Order out of Chaos – Divide and Conquer strategies which are tried and highly effective.

Is the pen mightier than the sword and/or the Money Power ?

roderick usher Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:13 pm

Yes. Between_the_lines is right there.

The obvious merit of a debt-free currency – which is what the Framers wanted – COULD get obscured, once things turn nasty and contentious.

The only way to accomplish that on any secure basis is by observing the gold standard – and natural law. Allow natural law to determine the money supply. No more “managed currency,” and creating money – or rather currency – from debt. That means the discipline of a gold standard. But there are some “perks.” Chief among these are (1) Stability; (2) A secure store of value; (3) You can plan for the future.

Compared to where we are at now, doesn’t all that sound a little like Heaven?

between_the_lines Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm

roderick usher: the gold standard.. doesn’t all that sound a little like Heaven?

between_the_lines: No it sounds like at attempt to manipilate your audience.
It all depends on whether the gold currency is pubicly or privately issued.
And even if it were public, at this late stage in the game the Rothschilds own most of the gold in the world. And the US government has owned no gold for at least 30 years as determined by the Reagan gold commission. If the US government expelled the 12 “Federal”-reserve banks, and instuted its own gold-backed currency, the only way the government could get enough gold to back its own currency would be to borrow it from the Rothschilds at interest. Any public gold currency would still finish up being a private Rothschild currency.

The correct answer is a governemnt-owned debt-free fiat currency, spent into circulation at a rate in synch with the rate of expansion of the economy. Lincoln got it right with his American-owned greenbacks, but they shot him. Every president who tried to introduce an American-owned currency has been shot..
1) Andrew Jackson (Survived)
2) James Garfield
3) William McKinley
4) Abe Lincoln
5) John F Kennedy

between_the_lines Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm

TYPO, SHOULD BE: “it sounds like AN attempt to manipilate”

Peter Wolf Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm

How does RP equate the printing of currency by private interests with the US Constitution ?

If i was the banking filth i would be making sure that RP gets elected so that RP would throw the public a bone by ending the FED and simply transferring the FEDRES operation to another organisation or some kind of set up that will already have been arranged in advance to get the heat off the banking filth.

Others wont agree with this or see it that way but in my experience you have to be able to see all of the angles and you have to think like the banking filth think and once you understand how they think its very easy.

I dont hear anything from RP about criminal investigations and arrests of those who run the FED and own it.Very curious ……………

I have a right to be cautious or cynical of any politician and i wont take anything at face value as everything is a deception these days.

dhsn Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm

Pete, usually agree with you but not this time. RP ends the FED and the exposure of the system, all of its evil, in great specificity, inoculates that generation or 2 against central banking.
Saying up front investigation/arrest/prosecution is tipping your hand. Bad strategerism.

Peter Wolf Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:56 pm

You are probably right and i hope you are but its something that is at the back of my mind so i am saying its possible rather than what will happen for sure.

Tom Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm

The FED needs to be stopped. Only Congress has the right to coin money. Since we have been a nation, only about 20 years or so, cumulative, have seen the proper circulation of paper money. Only Lincoln’s greenbacks were ever correct money, outside of gold or silver. That was the real reason for the Civil War, by the way. Only Congress, and not another private bank, can issue, print, coin, or control the money. And leave England out of it.

BiGpharmakillZ Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm

Whoever controls the gold/silver also controls the people.

We cannot go back to a gold backed dollar either. There must be a different way, and perhaps it must start with bartering.

Tom Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:55 pm

A gold backed dollar is just fine, but the problems of removing the evil and going back to the good will be epic. Any people(s) who waited this long to get up and do something, will not be able to effectively stop the same evil from “helping” us get re-started. Only when they are hanged from trees will be able to know for sure that they cannot harm us ever again.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:00 pm

THIS BANKING STUFF IS BORING. DO WE REALLY NEED THIS EXCUSE FOR THE SHOOTING SPREE??

JOIN THE AWP DEATH CULT – CHANGE, AMERICAN TALIBAN STYLE!!!
While we are programmed to look at the FEDS, the TSA war terrorists what would happen if we were able to neutralise the Vatican?

Maybe this war world we live in, would end? once we arrest the black magis worshipers who hide in the Vatican top secret vaults???

Vic Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm

Is this too crazy to believe?

Vic Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:07 pm

Masters of deceptions are the Jesuites. They control the Vatican astronomial science and planet X is there invention why? because prophecies took origine from this multiface powerfull organisation. Top secret is the Vatican and the members who live there.Secrets they have not reveiled to this day to the world????

Does the deep deep rabbit whole lead to Rome?

Vic Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm

Maybe this is why the popular saying: all roads lead to Rome ?

follow-the-money Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm

The Rothschilds manage the Vatican wealth. You should search on Supreme Court of Israel, built with donations by Evelyn De Rothschild. It is chock full of Occult symbolism.

follow-the-money Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:01 pm

An obelisk is found at the center of three cities, all three are city states within their respective nations. These cities are (1) The City, the banking center of the world, a square mile located within London. (2) Washington D.C. and (3) The Vatican.

follow-the-money Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:06 pm

What does the obelisk represent? Does it represent the fallen angels attempt to corrupt all human beings with DNA from fallen angels ? . . . and thus prevent the incarnation of Jesus Christ?

Tom Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm

The last 3 or so Presidents have FACED THE OBELISK during the swearing-in ceremony. Hmmmm.

BiGpharmakillZ Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:34 pm

From what I have read, the obelisk represents the penis of Nephlim, fallen angel.

Peter Wolf Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:51 pm

There isnt an obelisk in the City Of London unless i am unaware of it.There is an obelisk alongside the Thames embankment known as Cleopatras needle which is one a pair the other being in New York.I have forgotten what an obelisk represents but it is an important occult symbol.

Canada Tower at Canary Wharf in London is built to the same scale as the Great Pyramid using the same mathematical principles.Canada Tower looks like an obelisk with straight sides and it forms the tip of the pyramid.

[I had a bizzare sort of supernatural experience next to Cleopatras needle in London and its a popular suicide spot]

between_the_lines Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:05 pm

The Vatican does not own the Federal_Reserve nor any other central banks.

WHO OWNS THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK?
Every single owner is Jewish. Not one is Catholic.
1) Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin;
2) Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris;
3) Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy;
4) Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam;
5) Lehman Brothers of New York;
6) Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York (Now Shearson American Express);
7) Goldman, Sachs of New York.

Click this to see a detailed organization chart of the 12 “Federal”-Reserve Banks..
h**p://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/federal_reserve.shtml

between_the_lines Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:06 pm

Amschel Ϻayer Ɍothschild famously said in 1838:
“Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.”

He was Jewish not Catholic.

dhsn Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:16 pm

So build the ovens already.

vemi Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:20 pm

Yeahhh but “once we arrest the black magis worshipers who hide in the Vatican top secret vaults” is funnier.

between_the_lines Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:03 pm

dhsn Reply: So build the ovens already.

between_the_lines: Strawman argument. The actual argument was that all the owners of the 12 “Federal”-Reserve banks are Jews, not that all Jews are owners of the 12 “Federal”-Reserve banks.

between_the_lines Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:05 pm

vemi: Yeahhh but “once we arrest the black magis worshipers who hide in the Vatican top secret vaults” is funnier.

between_the_lines: “Guilt by association” logical fallacy. Dismisses an argument by association with other arguments.

reconscoutsniper Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:58 pm

@ Mikhail Lyubansky AKA between_the_ass

You mean like this response?
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between_the_lines:
[[Argumentum ad baculum (Appeal to force or fear)
An Appeal to Force happens when someone resorts to force (or the threat of force) to try and push others to accept a conclusion. This fallacy is often used by politicians, and can be summarized as “might makes right.” The threat doesn’t have to come directly from the person arguing. For example:
“Thus there is ample proof of the truth of the Bible. All those who refuse to accept that truth will burn in Hell.”
“In any case, I know your phone number and I know where you live. Have I mentioned I am licensed to carry concealed weapons?”
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Did you really think we would forget you? Tell us all how this response from you is in any way different than what you just stated. Hypocrite! Liar! Communist!

Bravo2……….out

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:02 pm

THIS IS THE KIND OF PARANOID, DELUSIONAL RANT THAT I LIKE TO SEE.
VATICAN INTRIGUE, HIDDEN COMETS, JEWS THAT RUN THE WORLD, MAGICAL CATHOLICS PERFORMING SECRET CEREMONIES…

THIS IS PERFECT! KEEP IT UP YOU NUTS…
Out of all the protests that have been filmed around the world in the last years, the current ones in America must be the most ill educated, empty headed, wimpish protests to have emerged. Lets hope the US protests are fake and democrat driven propaganda groups. If after the great awakening/ revolution, that’s all America has got, then USA better hope a foreign country can save it from itself.

OWS=Pathetic socialist crap. Lets tax the middle class to bail out the mega rich bankers. Go for it socialists. When you totally destroy the USA, send me a post card from your cave dwelling.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:04 pm

THEY SHOULD BE MORE LIKE YOU, BUSILY DIGGING YOUR BUNKER AND POSTING NONSENSE LIKE YOUR CORPORATE GODS ARE “MIDDLE CLASS”..

YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE THE ROMNEY PRESIDENCY…
This is a good set of clips from Ron Paul. I don’t see why the attack is necessary on so many of the other protestors. We need more people coming to the conclusion that the bansters need to be prosecuted and the Federal Reserve is part of the problem not the solution, not less. As this movement starts to broaden you are going to get less people involved that you fully agree with on everything. If Mike Moore wants to back part of this fine. If Max Keiser wants to interview folks that says off with their heads, then more power to them, I think the comedian that said this was trying to be fashious anyway. I find myself with Bob Chapman and Webster Tarpley, who are saying to more the merrier. You have to bust some eggs to make and omelette. Let’s celebrate the hero worship of the banksters is coming to an end and the posse is being formed to bring these criminal to justice and not quarrel so much amoungst ourselves. This posse could get a lot of followers for the Ron Paul militia to bring a peaceful revolution to this country. Lord knows we are overdue for some changes.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:06 pm

“This is a good set of clips from Ron Paul. ” – TIE CLIPS, CLIP ON EAR RINGS?

YOU COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE REFERRING TO A SPEECH BY CAPTAIN BORING?

GEEZ, HIS ONE-ISSUE DIATRIBES MAKE STATUES CRY…

WRINKLY RON PAUL IN 2012 – THE DEAD CAN WALK, BUT NOT VERY FAR..
Is Roseanne Barr calling to behead world criminal Bernanke….who would dilute the world’s money supply and starve billions.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:07 pm

ROSEANNE BARR HAS JOINED THE AWP DEATH CULT?? REALLY?
The fact is if these protestors were a threat to the system they would have been cleared off the streets and its being allowed to continue so that they can hijack it and misdirect it and manage it.

One of the placards in the pic at the top of the page says : “Industrial society is murdering our earth”

This protest isnt an End The Fed protest as its a protest abojut a whiole range of issues which dont focus on the cause of the problem so this protest/revolution will result in failure and from what i have seen of it so far i want nothing to do with it and i will not support it on that basis.

follow-the-money Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:53 pm

Peter Wolf says:

One of the placards in the pic at the top of the page says : “Industrial society is murdering our earth.”

follow-the-money says: Al Gore would be proud.

Michael Moore says: Capitalism is the problem.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:08 pm

ITS ALL MICHAEL MOORE’S FAULT!!

jasondylan Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm

Pete,

Exactly, if the MSM is promoting it, treating an issue, or a group favorably, it means that it is seriously tainted. The kids might mean well, but as Adam Kokesh showed from the meager DC turnout a few days ago, it is not real.

Honestly, I say that we need to enlist some high-profile people, Jesse Ventura, Rand Paul, Chuck Norris, religious leaders of all stripes, Bruce Springsteen et al, and get on national tv, do a national Stop the BS movement and tell the media to stop this BS left vs right, identity politics, tribal and religious war BS before it is too late, and the Shhhh hits the fan.

The are plenty of us who are ready to organize around Libertarian and Constitutional principles and we can steer people away from Republican or Democrat to Liberty and Constitution.

They are going to use, “End the Fed”, as a scary, anti-semetic type thing. We already see the ‘hackademic’ types coming out and diving into the devil of the details of eliminating the fed, when we all know it is about restoring RULE of LAW, and then let the chips fall where they may.

Dont let them catch you in that trap, dont say communist, when you can say globalist.

Incite the right, incite the left, and the middle gets caught in the trap.

The Left has lost this chess game, and they are pretending that they haven’t. The whole NWO thing is an Emotional Intelligence thing, you need to be have a certain level of grit to get it.
So Peter Wolf, if you are an American citizen, why don’t you start a proper intelligent protest.

Oh yeah we’ve discussed this before and you Alex Jones types find your flatulence to be more pleasing than a real meaningful protest.

Peter Wolf, If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

Peter Wolf Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm

Why dont you shut your mouth ?

You as a non-American can criticise the protestors but i cant and if i do i have to start my own protest ?

Stupid hypocrite.You cant post a simple comment without getting it wrong.

You are that @Alea et activist prick Troll who got banned a while back for being an obnoxious prick.I have heard all about your “meaningful protests” all before and they amounted to nothing………..

Go and reply to someone else as i really dont have any further interest in replying to you.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:10 pm

“Oh yeah we’ve discussed this before and you Alex Jones types find your flatulence to be more pleasing than a real meaningful protest.

Peter Wolf, If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.” – OH SNAP!!!

WOLFIE, ALEA JUST DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THAT BUNKER DIGGING AND POSTING RANTS HERE IS A LOT OF WORK! BESIDES, HE WOULD GET KICKED OUT OF THE AWP DEATH CULT CLUB IF HE ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING…

ALEA Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:43 pm

Peter Wolf, My posts were blocked because they exposed your gangs obvious limitations. Yeah my posts were blocked by an Alex Jones’ executive order against free speech and a different opinion.

My posts were not banned, because I don’t break house rules or use bad language. Unlike you who obviously should be banned.

You see Peter Wolf you blame and criticize your politicians, but you are exactly the same as those you criticize. You hate free speech, you propose nothing of value and you want to see others blocked even when they have broken no rules. Actually you should be recruited by Obama, you must be his white cousin.

Peter, its because of people of your obvious limitation that America is in the mess its in. But you guy are so childish you would rather blame the red coats of 1776 than look in the mirror.

Wolf you and your poorly considered thoughts (otherwise known as flatulence) are Americas obstacle to success.
How about calling for this first, since we can’t even get answers?

AUDIT THE FED

dhsn Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm

They’d lie.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:13 pm

TRUST NO ONE!!!!

THE SLEESTACK CAN DISGUISE THEMSELVES AS ANYBODY!

JOIN THE AWP DEATH CULT – KILL EVERYONE, ITS THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAFE!
It was the big banks from New York that met in private on their Jekyll Island retreat in 1910 in which the Federal Reserve Act was formulated and set into motion. It is the big banks in New York that has worked in conjunction with the Federal Reserve that have set interests rates at 0-.25% in December 2008. This interest rate was lowered to 0-.25% right after the bail-out of the “too big to fails” and it’s been there ever since. Laws were changed in September 2008 that allowed the Wall Street investment banks, such as Goldman Sachs, to change-over to holding companies so they could come under the purview of the Federal Reserve and thus be able to borrow money from the FED at the 0-.25% interest rate in which to speculate with. When you’re borrowing money (billion$) in collusion with the Federal Reserve,at those rates and you’re able to manipulate the stock market with your high frequency trading computers…. put options and naked shorts. You’ve got the system pretty well gamed in your favor.

between_the_lines Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:14 pm

AWS: “the big banks in New York that has worked in conjunction with the Federal Reserve”

BTL: The biggest bank in New York and the world is the Federal Reserve bank of New York. The “Federal Reserve”is not part of the government. The “Federal Reserve” is a collective term for the group of 12 private “Federal”-Reserve banks and their board of governors.
“Federal”-Reserve banknotes are issued by each of those banks:
1:A. Federal Reserve Bank of Boston
2:B. Federal Reserve Bank of New York
3:C. Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia
4:D. Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland
5:E. Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond
6:F. Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
7:G. Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
8:H. Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
9:I. Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis
10:J. Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
11:K. Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
12:L. Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
So stop bitching about what other activists aren’t doing right and start your own protest!

Peter Wolf Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Everyone seems to think that protesting is the solution to everything while ignoring what is known as lawful rebellion.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:15 pm

“So stop bitching about what other activists aren’t doing right and start your own protest!” – WHAAAT?? ARE YOU NUTS??

IF THEY DID THAT, THEN THAT WOULD BE DOING SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE.

JOIN THE AWP DEATH CULT – LIE BACK AND LET IT BURN!
Maybe Steve Watson should check his own website. The Washington’s Blog story 4 ledes down says they are. For God’s sake, isn’t this the action Alex has been shouting we needed thru his bullhorn since 9/11?

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:16 pm

NO, ALEX HAS BEEN FEAR-MONGERING FOR $$$ AND FAME. SOLVING A PROBLEM WOULD MEAN NO PAYDAY FOR HIM…
Mr. Watson
I think you, Alex and the team have hit the nail on the head. Occupy the Fed should be the Only focus if we want to turn things around.

Looks like this “revolution” is staged by stooges.
Check out the two jumps on that national debt graph…

…right when Ross Perot was campaigning for presidency pointing out the evils to the economy with NAFTA.

…and 911…
9/11 was an inside job orders came from the Vatican, zionists are involved, mossad and American involvement also we now all can see this hidden truth flowing out as the abuse and control continues. Lybia, soon IRAN and GOd knows who else after them.

vemi Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:08 pm

And anyone who is so stupid as to not take this chance to get in on the good side of the Vaticans paymasters (#O.W.S.) is screwed.

Peter Wolf Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:10 pm

Yes lets all appeal to the good side of the criminal filth.Its you who is screwed but you dont realise it yet.

That is what it is all about with these useful idiot chimps which is why they will never solve anything.

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:21 pm

JOINING THE VATICAN WILL KEEP THE SLEESTACK FROM EATING YOU. THEY MADE A DEAL WITH THE JEWS TO SPARE CERTAIN CATHOLICS AND THEIR ALLIES.

WOLFIE KNOWS BETTER, HE WANTS TO RESIST THE SLEESTACK INCURSION. WAY TO GO WOLFIE!
If they control mainstream media do you not think that even alternative media can be controlled? or at the least be fooled in many ways to serve a purpose that suits the illuminati plan?

HH911HOAX Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm

TRUST NO ONE!! INCLUDING THAT GUY IN THE MIRROR!