Someone Would Have Talked? Someone Would Be Crazy

Russ Baker
whowhatwhy.com
April 16, 2012

Would covert operatives whose work involves subverting democratic governments abroad—including violent coups such as the one that brought down Chilean President Salvador Allende in 1973—hesitate when ordered to participate in comparable activities at home?

We’re constantly told that no such thing could happen in the good ole USA (certainly not in the deaths of JFK, RFK, MLK, for example), if for no other reason than that it is impossible to keep such plots secret.

Or, in the common parlance: “Someone would have talked.”

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45 Responses to “Someone Would Have Talked? Someone Would Be Crazy”

  1. Someone did overhear a conversation in October 2000, approximately 11 months before 9/11/2001. A retired Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) officer, and veteran of the Yom Kippur War (1973), was collecting English Ivy Cuttings at the Gomel Chesed Cemetery located at McClellan and 245 Mount Olive Avenue. This is near the city lines of Elizabeth and Newark, New Jersey. The Gomel Chesed Cemetery is a Jewish cemetery. This fellow overheard a conversation in Hebrew saying, “The Americans will learn what it is to live with terrorists after the planes hit the twins in September.” The fellow reported it to the FBI on numerous occasions only to be ignored each time.

    The link on this article points the finger at the Israeli Mossad. However, I believe that there’s plenty of evidence that makes the CIA look just as culpable. Don’t put in three W’s in front of this link.

    Link: wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

    Keep the straight course! I love y’all!

    • Katz: AWESOME link. Thank you! I just went through the entire thing and it fits with what I’ve already studied, and adds a few more to the cast of characters.

      ~Peace~

    • This doesn’t make sense and I don’t believe this propaganda story. If the Israelis knew about 911 before hand, they would have told the US, their allies. I don’t think they would want a destruction of democracy. BS story

      • Never said I believe it. Not sure who or what to believe because I only believe absolutely what I have seen with my own eyes, felt the pain from being hurt, or poured my own blood over it.

        I WAS at WTC the first day I could fly there (9/14/2001) I took pictures because what I saw was beyond comprehension. I’ll read anything that’s not alien conspiracy or similar kookiness to try to connect the dots.

        In New York daily newspapers (not the Times) that Friday, there were articles about how “the mob” had moved in alongside the Fire Dept. to start salvage operations, without having any contract rights to do so. There were as many heavy lift cranes operating that Friday as fire trucks…yet my camera was ripped out of my hands “…for disrespecting a crime scene…” by both a Firefighter and later a Cop? How does an image destroy evidence when crane operators are loading steel to be hauled off for recycling?

        They were getting rid of the evidence. I saw it. No one will convince me otherwise. I just want to know why…Why did my amateur photos end up in the NIST archives? Why when I Google search my name, does it take me right to those photos? I’m nobody with no ….no criminal record, yet I can’t pass a background check or get through security?
        THAT is bullshit…everything else is still being evaluated…

  2. For the right money I would play deaf mute.

  3. It’s the propaganda machine in Hollywood and public schools that reaffirm the notion that the US is so right in all it does.

    This has been going on for sure, at least since 1913, when they stirred up WW1 against Germany and then WW2 again.

    Since the bankers bought the USA.

  4. I know alot of people that only want possitive things to enter their minds, and I believe it is a combination of things that make them think this way; 1) life is short why think about negahtive things, 2) nothing real bad can happen in America because we have checks and balances, 3) until it affects me I don’t care, 4) There is so many conspiracy theory nut cases ‘who knows what to believe’. I had my reality changed when my name was added to the list which causes innocent citizens to be targeted by ORGANIZED GANG STALKERS (actually COINTELPRO), which even this site does not cover. I now have leukemia from the microwave DEWs used to prevent me from sleeping, as part of the much larger harassment and slow kill program. Most everyone I tell my story to could care less, and even seem offended that I would tell such a story. I am truly fascinated by how people you think you know will not believe you, but are willing to believe you suddenly lost your mind or you suddenly became a cumplusive lier. My answer to all of this is to take the time to get to know someone before you write them off as a kook.

    • Youtube: TAPS STARTS 10,000 SIGNATURE PETITION
      God Bless!

  5. Touche`,Aggghhhh, you got em !

    • …this was SUPPOSED to have been a reply to ‘trye3d’…waaaaaaaay down the bottom.

  6. More people now believe the Conspiracy Truthers than they do the Gutterstream Media.

  7. They already have… Google OTPOR, CIA, SOROS and NHTPC for the full story.

  8. People do talk. Then they are kicked out of the establishment and made into a “conspiracy theorist” embarrassment of society by the media. Then people get it in their minds that things are just coincidences. I don’t believe in coincidences when it comes to events. A coincidence is having the lottery winning lottery ticket.

  9. Enough ” talkin’ ” …

    We know what the deal is by now …

    Time to switch gear …

  10. Wikileaks Exposes 9/11 Conspirators!!!

    Uploaded by ankhsbreath on Dec 12, 2010

    Please upload this video to your youtube channels, and share with as many people as possible!

    Originally from htt*://www.youtube.com/user/AlienScientist

    Let the Investigations and Prosecutions Begin!

    Wikileaks is a fraud that diverts away from the 9/11 truth movement. Julian Assange is an example of how far our governments will go to hide the truth. It’s insanely easy to confuse the sheeple of the world.

    For more information, check out htt*://www.youtube.com/user/IranContraScumDid911

    = htt*://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG3uaQxc8uQ

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    • … so is Noam Chomsky. He is part of the controlled opposition as well.

      • Noam Chomsky Debunks 9/11 and JFK Murder

        Uploaded by adam7117 on Apr 12, 2008

        See Noam Chomsky speaking in Budapest at the Kossuth Klub hosted by the “Lehet Mas a Vilag.”

        He is debunking the conspiracy behind 9/11 events and claiming that JFK murder is irrelevant.

        This is the original and unedited footage as presented by onegoodmove.org

        htt*://phoenix7117.blogspot.com/

        *** DISCLAIMER ***
        Comments on this video are not edited or moderated. They are not representative of the opinions of the channel’s owner.

        htt*://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7SPm-HFYLo

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        • Thanks Leonard You are a Stand Up Guy !

        • Thanks for the links, will check them out. Last I checked on Chomsky, he was touting the lamestream media BS about 9/11. He gave a talk at MIT which I attended and was the first person to speak at length about Operation Paperclip, although I had read about it. He interests me but he is part of the controlled opposition.

        • I just looked at the vid, still a lying sack of disinfo getting paid to spread it. Oh well.

  11. JESUS TALKED! LISTEN TO WHAT HE TOLD ME!

    SAVE PITTSBURGH AND YOURSELF!

    SPREAD THE WORD TO ALL YOU KNOW BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!

    PITTSBURGH MAY BE “DESTROYED” ON APRIL 19 OR APRIL 20, 2012

    OR DURING THE SIGN OF TAURUS APRIL 20–MAY 20 2012

    IF ENOUGH PEOPLE KNOW, WHOEVER MAY INTEND TO CAUSE HARM MAY NOT DO IT!

    On Oct.13, 2011 I had a first time ever possible “PROPHETIC” dream that said; “For every 5,000 Christian Martyr’s killed, a city shall be destroyed. The First, Pittsburgh.”

    I have just made (4/11/12) and uploaded two videos to youtube.com. “Save Pittsburgh and Yourself” (45 min.) and “2 Saving Pittsburgh Bible Code Proof” (52 min.) under the name chicagomiracle.

    The first video sets up the context of everything regarding the second video. In the second video, you can see the evidence for yourself that the Bible Code computer program that looks for hidden codes in the Bible supports my contention that Pittsburgh is under threat. And you’ll see it is the Bible Code that suggests the possible dates. In the video I show the Bible Code at work as I look at words surrounding the main term “5,000 killed”.

    Also on 4/14/12 I’ve made and uploaded, “Save Pitt; Code Proof Short.avi” (38 min.) which is a quick combination of the first two videos if you can’t watch them, but you may not understand the full scope of what I’m saying due to less info. And if you STILL can’t watch even that, try “Barebones Pitt Code Proof.avi” (22 min.) that has very little explanation compared to the others but may be still effective.

    I had wanted to march to Pittsburgh, fasting and praying to raise awareness of this threat but I was prevented from doing so by the same physical ailment that occurred the day before I tried to start fasting on March 1st and then again on March 20th. I looked at the Bible Code to see if God was behind this and what did God want me to do. It seems from the Code that God was strongly opposed to me fasting (perhaps for my protection) and that God wanted me to, perhaps metaphorically, “escape”. From what or how, I don’t know.

    I have had a few “spiritual experiences” in my life and have used the Bible Code program since 2002. It is my strong belief that if my dream is true, then the destruction of Pittsburgh could be the key pivotal event that leads to some kind of worldwide calamity and catastrophe. Billions may die, including you and me. And that’s what I mean when I say “Save Pittsburgh and Yourself”. This event may lead to the return of Jesus and Judgement Day. But it says in the Bible God does not want to bring Judgement. God is always warning us to change before it’s too late. I take my dream to be a warning.

    If you watch the video as I work the Bible Code, you will see the truth within the Code. In Sept. 2010 I had what I believe was a sign from God that suggests I can RAPIDLY (within a year) find a cure for paralysis and spinal injuries by using clues found within the Bible Code. If you watch the videos you’ll see a connection between curing spinal injuries and breaking down the word Pittsburgh in Bible Code terms. Look up “pithing” or “to pith”. Think PITH-BURG.

    Jesus proved He has authority to forgive sins on Earth by healing a paralyzed man.

    I want to meet with the “Elites”, the men with the power to start and stop wars, and get them to help me find the cure for spinal injuries and paralysis in less than a year’s time by using the Bible Code. And when that happens they will know there is a God and that if they change their ways from destroying Mankind to loving one another instead, they will be forgiven of all past offenses by believing in Jesus and following God’s way. Then hopefully there shall be love, peace and prosperity for Mankind. Hopefully, we can put off the Judgement Day God does not want to bring.

    PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT PITTSBURGH EVEN IF YOU DON’T WATCH THE VIDEOS!

    YOU CAN EVEN JUST SAY SOME GUY HAD A DREAM AND SAID SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN TO PITTSBURGH AROUND APRIL 20 AND MENTION NOTHING ABOUT ME OR MY VIDEOS.

    JUST SO LONG AS THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS AWARE OF A POSSIBLE THREAT.

    THANKS!

    • TL;DR

    • You are a fucking asshole.

    • You ever been too pittsbugler??? Wheres the loss???

      • Lol! It’s not called Pitts burg for no reason. But I still don’t see how it could be worse than Los Diablos, Sickago or Screw York.

  12. Sometimes I think that those involved with, “hands on aspects,” of the events of 9/11, may have actually thought they were/had been doing something totally different.

    Here is just one example: suppose that during asbestos abatement in the Twin Towers, the painters applying the intumescent fireproofing really did not know or even suspect the material contained a thermite incendairy. And just suppose the abatement contractor had no idea either and was given a source supplier, per contract agreement.

    My point here is that sometimes people think they are doing one thing, when actually they are working to accomplish the exact opposite without ever realizing it. Now if one was clever enough and had enough layers of disguise through all the compartments of deparetments, anything is possible.

    Just look at how the masses vote a particular way and get the exact opposite because they are misinformed. Like they went all out to support Obama thinking they were working on behalf of America, only to deliver us all to a living nightmare.

    Bringing down the Twin Towers, if the plan was really covert and involved a good 10 years of getting “unknowns” into place, one by one, a little at a time, such as thermite based fireproofing onto abated steel framing, in conjuction with other “unkowns,” it would be possible to create such an illusion it was caused by planes and buring jet fuel.

    For those incapable of considering long term planning, realize how long it took David Copperfield to become a really good magician and realize his magic tricks took years to perfect and require elaborate stage sets. That is, the effort is many times greater than the event itself and a deep psychological understanding of the audience and what the audience is capable of perceiving is in itself a classified science.

    But DAMN!!!, there are just too many tell tale signs it was an inside job!

    • It only took a year to wire it… 24/7 365…

  13. I understand your words, but they are unpractable,,, all these enemies you speak of come from the white mans world, and now that your tired of being screwed by your own brother you want to call it off,, it’s to late now, you will reap what you have sowed. you have hidden in your greed for such a long time, now you want to hide behind your bible and preach forgiveness, This is how history was written, by winners and history will once again say it different ,,,,,that the white man was no more. The word white man was invented by the British in order to turn races against each other and specifically the white races against the darker races.
    To destroy this organization (illuminati), we first must UNITE we need UNITY. That’s their number one fear. If we do this they will collapse tell everyone UNITE! Don’t care what anyone says to u UNITE their blind if they don’t see the truth, the truth that people are blinded with UNITE! WAKE UP!

    Who might MOSSAD be conducting aggressive espionage operations for?
    We can start with Sir Evelyn De Rothschild: Godfather of the Black Nobility, and the right hand man to the Queen, Head of the Illuminati.
    Head of International Zionism.
    Owner of Israel.
    Vaticans Main Banker, and controller of the world’s money supply.
    Mossad is Evelyn’s personal Intelligence agency.
    They were instrumental in carrying out the September 11 attacks along with MI6, CIA and the ISI.

  14. The idea that someone would have talked is a valid question, and it is almost impossible to disprove, since someone would have to talk to disprove it, but there are many cases of events that are today KNOWN conspiracies where no one talked, and it took quite a bit of research on the subject to show that a plot was involved. Certainly one of the pivotal people in the Patriot Movement was B!ll C00per. He was the one who proved the existence of Area 51, because the government denied its existence for years. If you haven’t seen this movie Project Redlight II then you have the chance to watch it on UTube.

    This movie takes about an hour and a half to watch. But B!ll C00per was the first one to film flying saucers. Well, UFOs, since the other things are various forms of made up things. With all my technical experience, I have no idea what he filmed, since the craft, if it is one, does things that are impossible to do by all the physics I know. Only ONE of B!ll C00per’s claims to fame is that he revealed the very existence of Area 51, and this was only 1989, because the government refused to admit that the site existed. Dummies had a lot of laughs at the expense of people who claimed to have seen it, and were the among the first to make fun of people who didn’t trust the government and thought that there was an entire body of knowledge outside what was normally fed to the general population. Anyone who thinks large projects can’t be completely concealed simply doesn’t know about all the history and how, in fact, plots run the world. Besides the very existence of Area 51, and the UFOs in the film, Bill mentions the F-117 program that had a fully functional squadron of planes almost 20 years before they were revealed to the public.

    A side benefit of the film is a view into desolation. There is nothing out there at all. The Mojave Desert is just a wilderness, and he shows a lot about the area surrounding Area 51…and REAL UFOs.

    -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TDXbtnDnyg

    One other thing. I bought a VCR tape from Bill when they first came out, and this clip is incomplete at the beginning, because the original tape has the news clip with the reporter who was a witness at the execution of Tim McVeigh. The announcer was saying that he thought he “could almost see the body still breathing”. Which is another story.

  15. George Bush and Dick “Wad” Cheney and their entire administration will be tried for treason, war crimes and crimes against humanity……………all of those fucks will be executed live on pay-per-view t.v. And Oni66a will see the same!

    • Actually they’ve already been convicted of war crimes, just not in this country.

      Dick “The Penguin” Cheney is gonna be screwed when Batman quits playing with the Joker.

    • skull and bones bush boys
      masonic cult kennedy tried to tell everyone and they would not listen

      THE WORK THROUGH covet means

      etc etc

      they are world wide mitt romney is a mormon MASON

      the leader of the jehovah witnessess started skull and bones LOOK IT UP

      charles taze russel LOOK AT HIS masonic gravestone
      youtube charlotte iserbyt skull and bones videos

      WE HAVE TO STOP THIS before they murder one hundred million americans

      its coming folks THE hitler gulags are coming to america IF WE DONT get those bastards out of the white house

      left right left right WE HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR SKULL AND BONES BOYS
      FOR YEARS

      youtube what in the world are they spraying

      youtube masonic district of columbia washington dc

      PLEASE look stuff up
      please tell others

      chemtrails911 com

    • Id pay all my money too see that… but get every last rat/kenyan house monkey!!!

  16. 9/11 woke me the hell up. After 9/11, I’m convinced anything could happen in America. Anything. And when the elite saw how afraid people are of box cutters, they knew it was time for endgame. And they knew they might succeed. Cmon fellas, are box cutters really that scary?

    • Having a box cutter type of instrument to hijack an airplane was commonplace back in the days.

      It happened all the time… Muslims are famous for hijacking.

      More than likely the passengers felt like it was going to be just another walk in the park, hijacking.

      Speed off to some foreign country and wait for the demands of the hijackers to be met.

      I’m sure most of them were simply hoping to make it back home in time for supper.

      Once the word got out that these Muslims were flying these jets into buildings… it became more serious. Hence… flight 93.

      Your box cutter exaggeration has been debunked over and over… yet you continually spread these same false ideas to protect the Muslims.

      Muslims had been hijacking airliners for decades!

      I would bet that most of the passengers simply figured it was another walk in the park episode until their hijackers terrorist buddies were released from prison somewhere in the world.

      I’d say at least someone even figured it would give them the chance to visit some exotic country for the evening… the reason…

      It was the same pattern of what Muslim hijackers had done for decades…

      Additionally; the box cutter excuse doesn’t hold true. The fact is… hijacking airplanes had become another every week event in the news. For the people on these airplanes… it was just another day…

      The common misconception is: “These Muslim Extremists held the planes hostage with box cutters, don’t you think that the passengers could have easily overtaken them?”

      I say… sure they could have, but why should they have done so?

      The common practice of hijacking was to take the airplanes to some airport and make demands for something or another. Like the typical releasing of Muslim brotherhood prisoners in Egypt.

      Hijacking has been going on for decades and I’m sure everyone figured it wasn’t worth getting cut over a missed dinner.

      In fact… most training manuals teach people to let the robbers have their way, just shut up and do what you’re told. Avoid confrontation and cooperate. No sense in getting someone or yourself hurt.

      What business doesn’t teach this? What police force doesn’t teach this?

      If anything… you are a Muslim. And your twisted way of presenting doubts in the minds of readers has been debunked over and over! And these are just two issues… the rest of your comment can be refuted just as easily.

      *** Folks… don’t be duped by these idiot Muslims that have exhibited terrorist behavior for centuries. They intend on seducing you into their Luciferian occult to worship a fake god.

      COMMON SENSE TELLS US THAT MUSLIMS ATTACKED THE USA ON 9/11 AND ARE CURRENTLY ATTEMPTING TO COVER UP THEIR INVOLVEMENT!

      Muslims worship a satanic government that kills… Muslims are commanded to lie to forward Islam… Islam is a sick death cult… Backed by the Luciferian of this world!

      • Zionists invented Modern Terrorism

        Uploaded by GENOCIDEinGAZA on Jan 16, 2009

        the truth about israel

        htt*://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gah_cu3czvc

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      • lol you racist troll.

        • … not a ‘racist’ … a realist, unlike you … lol

      • Zionist Israel Must Be Exposed To The World

        Uploaded by seektruthandwisdom on Feb 21, 2012

        Zionist Israel is the real rogue nuclear state. Americans need to wake up and realize that they’ve been lied to by the Israeli Zionist media.This video of the Zionist controlled state of Israel is as relevant today as it was in 2009.The Palestinians have suffered tremendously under this rogue regime and now they are pushing for a war with Iran which will have major consequences for the world.It’s time to wake up to the lies and manipulation of Zionist Israel.

        htt*://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq1JMiyiReM

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        • Israel is the Real Terrorist State

          Uploaded by thenewsurvivalist on Feb 17, 2012

          IMPORTANT: This video is not anti-Semitic. It is anti-Zionist. If you don’t know the difference, then you are a part of the problem, not the solution. Look past the messenger. The proof I speak of is in the news reports shown in this video, not the word of the narrator. This video reveals who the real terrorists are. The traitors in our government support this because they are paid off by AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee), the Zionist Israel Political Action Committee in Washington. Most of our politicians in Washington sign an agreement of allegiance with AIPAC in order to receive the bribes and the money they pay out to support their re-election campaigns. These politicians are clearly traitors and terrorists, and have repeatedly sold out American lives in staged terror attacks and unconstitutional, immoral and genocidal wars for their own political gain. And they continue to support acts of terrorism and treason. They will take us into World War 3 with Israel unless we stop them now! Support Ron Paul! He is the only candidate in the race for the presidency who is not bought off by the terrorists.

          htt*://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noln8nx43Skfeature=related

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        • Tell it like it is Len.
          Thats why douchebag lying commies like this dork up here need to be bombarded in this real Infowar.
          Know thine enemy. They have been busy lying to us for a long time, have done enormous damage, and will not stop until they contain whats left of the USA.
          See if this Ziocommie lying racist can stomach the truth, or will he tuck tail and run back to his Mossad HQ.
          Sumsrent=Ziotroll Trash, your day is coming Trash.

          Everyone see here what they do to you peace lovers.

          htt* :// w w w . k a w t h e r.info/wpr/2012/04/15/watch-the-video-of-the-ne west-isr ael-br utal-fas ci sm

        • hey Len, above racist comment wasn’t for you, it was for the ziotroll above yours. Cheers.

      • half of the so called hijackers ARE ALIVE and working and living in other countries

        LOOK IT UP do research

        • So… they failed in their mission… inconvenienced, cowards or whatever…

          Or…wrong identities… happens all the time.

          Q: What’s your point?

          PS… I doubt you’re a single dad because your wife died in combat…

          Therefore… until you learn how to keep a woman… these intellectual things are certain to be beyond your scope.

  17. Lots of people talk. The problem is that few people are willing to do anything about it.

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