“You’re in violation of the law. But I’m not gonna write you up today.”
Grant County, WA —Gavin Seim is no stranger to calling out government for violating the law. Seim is a liberty activist, speaker and former US Congressional challenger from Washington state. He is a devoted activist who is not afraid to go toe to toe with would-be tyrants.
Seim has made it his mission in recent weeks to expose police in Washington who are violating the law by impersonating citizens. The Washington State Law, states that it is unlawful for police officers to drive unmarked vehicles.
There are a few exemptions but they are for State police only and they do not apply to patrol vehicles. There is also a WA State court precedent where a man fled police and his felony charge was thrown out because the pursuing vehicle was not properly marked.
Seim, like many people, sees the issue of unmarked cars as a potential hazard. The main reason being that people pulling over for unmarked cars is dangerous. Anyone can buy flashing blue and red lights and throw them up on the dashboard. People have been raped and even murdered because of this, so the law is good sense.
This issue is not only about unmarked vehicles, it’s about holding government accountable all across the board.
However, that hasn’t stopped the trolls.
Just 2 weeks ago, Seim pulled over an officer for the same violation and he’s since become the target of apologists claiming that all police are exempt from this law.
Seim has done his research and on his website he breaks down the law quite elaborately.
LEGAL NOTES:
The government apologists have been working to convince people this law does not apply to police. This is ridiculous since that’s the main point of the law, but I want to take it on with facts. Kevin Schmadeka actually started this conversation back in 2011 and there’s a good fact sheet on it here.
Here is the text of 46.08.065. But the legal spin machine is suggesting that the law does not apply to any police officer because if the this text in section (1)
“This section shall not apply to vehicles of a sheriff’s office, local police department, or any vehicles used by local peace officers under public authority for special undercover or confidential investigative purposes”
MYTH: The spin machine asserts that since the word “OR” is in the sentence it must therefore separate the structure. They assert that exempt vehicles include “sheriff AND “local police” AND “local peace officers” undercover. While it can be a tad confusing when you think about it, it does not take an expert linguist to debunk this lie and it would never stand in court. The wording is actually clear.
FACT: “undercover or confidential investigative” requirement applies to all the vehicles in that sentence. Why? If that sentence did in fact cover two separate categories of vehicles, they would be noted with an (a) and a (b). This is how RCW’s are written and it’s done in the very next sentence which reads: “This subsection shall not apply to: (a) Any municipal transit vehicle operated for purposes of providing public mass transportation; (b) any vehicle governed by the requirements of subsection (4).” When clear separation is worded in, it’s made very clear.
If understanding the English context is not enough, the laws it’s intent can be traced back to the memos of the bill written my the legislative auditor of Washington State. Here is how he summarized this legislation..
“The bill is intended to provide better public visibility of government owned vehicles and to provide a means for more efficiently marking vehicles operated by the state and units of local government, ..A vehicle marking exemption for vehicles used by sheriffs, local police and local peace officers is continued but is limited to vehicles used for undercover or confidential investigative purposes.” — Legislative Auditor Thomas R. Hazzard, in a memo dated January 31, 1975.
Some also suggest that State Patrol (WSP) can exempt any car they want, because there is a note in section (3) that states ” Traffic control vehicles of the Washington state patrol” may be exempted by the chief. Note that this section is only for WSP. But it still does not exempt them. Traffic Control Vehicles are not and have never been patrol cars. They are the vehicles that do things like guide you through a Construction Zone. The WSP picked up on this as a way to break the law and convince people they were not. Sadly we have allowed them to get away with it.
Historical Brief:
This law was instituted in 1937. It was a one section law that applied to all agencies equally. Then, there was no exception but for “special or general police purpose”. That description was clarified in the 1975 alteration to define the exemption as “special undercover or confidential investigative purposes“. Here is the original text of the law, found in chapter 189 of the 1937 session laws.
Sec46: It shall be unlawful for any public officer having charge of any vehicle owned by the State of Washington or by any county, city, town or other public body in this state and used in public business to operate the same upon the public highways of this state unless and until there shall be painted upon such automobile or other motor vehicle in letters of contrasting color not less than two (2) inches in Public vehicles, name of department. height in a conspicuous place on the left side thereof, the words “State of Washington” or the name of such county, city, town or other public body, together with the name of the department or office upon the business of which the said vehicle is used: Provided, Exceptions. This section shall not apply to vehicles of the Washington State Patrol, sheriff’s office, police department, or any vehicles used by peace officers under public authority for special or general police purpose : Provided, It shall be lawful and constitute compliance with the provisions of this section for any department or office to adopt and use in lieu of the lettering required a distinctive insignia, approved by the state commission on equipment, and bearing substantially the same information as required herein.
In 1975 the law added sections, making different restrictions for State vehicles versus local or County vehicles. The use of the language when taken in it’s simple original form clearly illustrated the meaning. The use of OR is not defining all officers as exempt at all. That it would would defeat the primary intent of the law and conflicts with even the current version and structure. You can find all revisions in the WA State Session Laws.
The bottom line is that the law is clear and to suggest that any of it’s text exempts local police and sheriffs entirely is ridiculous and denies the grammatical structure of American English, the text of the bill and the published intent of the bill.
Source Article from http://thefreethoughtproject.com/vigilant-citizen-stops-officer-violation-law-ids-cop-warning/
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Jennifer Wells:
October 24, 2014 at 10:07 PM
This is NOT shocking!!! I’ve gotten so use to cops breaking the law & local governments allowing it!!! I believe that leading by EXAMPLE is the best way!!! I don’t want my kids to do drugs or be alcoholics or run around shooting or robbing people, so GUESS WHAT??? I live my life the way I want them to live theirs!!! LEAD BY EXAMPLE NOT FORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tommy Cockerham:
October 25, 2014 at 12:42 AM
i like this dude keep up the good work man i wanna see you issue some fines
Alan Goguen:
October 25, 2014 at 1:49 AM
Gavin Seim can only file a complaint about an officer operating in violation of the law, only a judge can issue fines.
Tommy Cockerham:
October 25, 2014 at 2:13 AM
good grief i know that
Kirk Samuels:
October 24, 2014 at 10:34 PM
This is NOT trolling!
E Dennis Skipper:
October 25, 2014 at 2:04 AM
Yep !
This dude kicks major ass !
Jonathan Hartman:
October 25, 2014 at 12:49 AM
This guy is a total wack job. The deputy did nothing wrong. Mr. Seim is an agitator. You don’t know all the facts behind his intent. He is no hero, just a nut trying to fool you into believing he is some sort of crusader! I live here, I know!
Ryan Milford:
October 25, 2014 at 1:04 AM
You must be a cop.
Cody Duke:
October 25, 2014 at 1:17 AM
Troll cop is obvious troll cop.
Chris Kling:
October 25, 2014 at 1:32 AM
Dude your stupid.
Alan Goguen:
October 25, 2014 at 1:43 AM
Cody Duke The guy even looks like a donut eater!
Tammy Lynn Armstrong:
October 25, 2014 at 2:02 AM
Alan Goguen if you really personally knew any cops you would know they are health nuts and fitness buffs, they drink protein shakes and bars and spend the majority of their time off at the gym
Alan Goguen:
October 25, 2014 at 2:06 AM
Tammy Lynn Armstrong ROTFLMAO!!
Tammy Lynn Armstrong:
October 25, 2014 at 2:18 AM
Alan Goguen ignorance is bliss… Have a blissful life. Educate don’t hate
Alan Goguen:
October 25, 2014 at 2:32 AM
Tammy Lynn Armstrong I don`t need to be educated, I have been already. I have NEVER heard a cop tell the truth and my first wife is married to a low-life dirty cop that got busted for stealing COCAINE from the evidence locker!I could go on for a whole book about how many REAL cops(PIGGS) I have known for many years, maybe I`ll write that book , but not here!
Keven Johnson:
October 25, 2014 at 4:21 AM
Hell yes Gavin Seim is an agiatator, and we need more like him!
Race Feutz:
October 25, 2014 at 5:22 AM
Chris Kling You’re or, You are
Todd Auten:
October 25, 2014 at 3:01 AM
FUCK THE POLICE@!!!!!!
Arch Stanton:
October 25, 2014 at 6:50 AM
Good work!