Healthy dialogue about risks vs benefits & informed consent around vaccines in NZ is sidelined & vilified

Revisiting a post from March 2019 with some updated links FYI, pertinent at this time as today the new experimental covid vaccine rolls out on the NZ public.

Firstly, although vaccines in NZ are not mandatory, there is an expectation nevertheless that you be vaccinated & questioning that narrative is not seen as reasonable at all. Witness the phone calls elderly get telling them to ‘get in and get their flu shots’ or the visits to the homes of non vaccinating parents inquiring why they are declining shots? This does happen I assure you. EWR

The 2019 article:

Last week amidst a measles outbreak in Christchurch [2019 note], social media has been in full on discussion about vaccines with an article by TV1 news featuring Nigel Latta, another prominent person weighing in on a borderline push insisting that parents vaccinate their children. (Truthstream Media’s video titled Free Speech and Shutting Down the Vaccine Debate is unfortunately ‘no longer available’ on YT). Google, Amazon & Facebook are all involved in this.  And meanwhile, Duncan Garner has labeled anybody who refuses to vaccinate a ‘murderer’. Note, nary a mention of all the babies who have died following vaccination.

Vaccination in NZ is not compulsory. See the official email from the NZ Health Dept website below.

These prominent persons who are waving their self assumed ‘authority’ over you & your families under your noses, should in my opinion concentrate more on urging parents to obtain all the scientific literature from both sides of the vaccination issue before proceeding with their own informed & well researched decision that will benefit their children. Same as we should on any proposed medical procedure. Instead, Latta has likened such thinking folk to flat earthers.

Recently we posted a video featuring talk back radio where a young mother who is also a psychology graduate & whose six week old baby was vaccine injured, made a plea for full disclosure by the health professionals of the possible risks vs the possible benefits of a vaccine. One hour after vaccination, this young mother says her baby woke up screaming & over two days turned into a floppy rag doll with a high pitched shrill moan … his brain was swelling. Listen to her speak in the following short clip.

So according to Latta’s thinking, anybody who questions this medical procedure (what are the contents of the vaccine? Are there any side effects to consider? and so on) are actually  “as legitimate as those at the Flat Earth Society”. Surely this young woman’s desire to be informed of the said risks vs benefits should not qualify her to be considered by health professionals as a so called ‘conspiracy theorist’? (the favourite go-to of those who would prefer you didn’t look at the facts).

I’m very disappointed as I really admired Latta’s  work with the Shadowlands series.  Yet on this issue he clearly is not for our parental right of choice. There are now enough testimonies from parents of deceased babies & disabled children who wish they had been informed of the risks and who cannot now turn back the clock. If you doubt that please visit the Vaxxed Youtube channel & hear all the heartbroken parents speaking out. View the before & after videos of their precious little ones, changed forever. Any parent’s worst nightmare. The disturbing thing about that is their numbers are increasing.

To not weigh up the risks of injury versus the benefits, in light of the current available information, would in my opinion be very irresponsible.

This is not however how the medical establishment sees this. They want you to get the vaccine, no questions asked. Hitler would be proud.

With respect to the parental right to decline a vaccine, folk have been sharing their experiences recently following the post of an article about children of non consenting parents being pressured by nurses at their schools to be vaccinated regardless of their parents’ wishes. A blatant violation of human rights. Details are in this article:

CHILDREN OF NZ PARENTS WHO HAD DECLINED THE HPV VAX WERE TAKEN ASIDE AT SCHOOL, TOLD THEIR PARENTS DIDN’T LOVE THEM AND COERCED FOR THEIR CONSENT

Parents having read this article made the following comments in social media:

My daughters were approached by nurses at school “gently” encouraging them to persuade me, they also rang me to question my judgment….I’M THE PARENT not them how dare they question my decisions for my daughters.

I’ve had lengthy conversations with my 11 and a half year old about this..today he said his teacher was telling them all they have to get vaccinated to keep them safe and asking them questions like “you do want to be safe and live don’t you?” , the teacher proceeded to tell the kids they needed to go home this evening and tell their parents that they need to make an appointment with the doctor asap…they have a vaccination program for the year 8s at his school and I told him he has my full permission to refuse and if they pressure him to demand to be able to call me or run away from the area that they are vaccinating.

I received HPV vaccination over 12 years ago now, when my mum sent in a form that said she didn’t consent to me receiving it. I gave it to the nurse who tossed it in the bin, then gave it to me anyways.. when I got home I told my mum & the next day she called a meeting with the school principal, vice principal and all my teachers and went offfff. After that day they didn’t even bother giving me any forms for vaccinations because they didn’t want my mum to come down to the school again.

When my boy was attending Intermediate school they were being targeted for diptheria, tetanus pertussis (triple vaccine) and as a parent I rang to ask where was the info for the parents. Answer was “oh we don’t do this anymore and hardly anyone turns up” So I was invited along to an assembly where they addressed all the kids. My boy had been sent on an errand unbeknown to me and when the session was finished he turned up almost in tears as he had “missed out”. Now the session included a video of propaganda showing an old school photo of a class with circles around a few pupils (can’t remember which way around it was to use as an example who was spreading disease). The Deputy Principal allowed for questions of the 2 DHB nurses present. One South African boy asked what bad reactions could happen and the nurse had to acknowledge “anaphylactic shock”. I raised my hand to ask a question and the DP gave me the most evil look then promptly closed the whole session down and sent everyone back to class. What hope is there if the teachers are propagandised leaves me worried and wondering …..

Parents now also need to be aware that some children are being prescribed anti-depressants without parental consent.

Clearly some medical staff are taking it upon themselves to apply pressure to children which is not acceptable. As to prescribing anti depressants without parental consent, that is definitely crossing the line. Watch your children parents. Listen to them. And be involved & know what is happening at their schools. Make it clear to those concerned what your expectations are regarding any health procedure.

Note also the right of choice has also been removed from the staff of a Christchurch school regarding their own choice to vaccinate. Unvaccinated teachers face a fine of $2,000:

To conclude here is a reply from the NZ government’s health website to the question:
Please advise if immunisation in New Zealand is compulsory or that it is up to the person and/or parents to make that decision. Your website is not very clear on all of this.
[Note since reposting this on 20/2/21 I’ve not been able to locate this letter any more on the site … it may be there but I cannot find it].

From: info@health.govt.nz <info@health.govt.nz>
To: xxxx (name supplied)
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019, 9:45:57 AM GMT+13

Subject: Re: Immunisation

Good morning,

Thank you for your email.  Getting immunised is voluntary in New Zealand, and it is an individual’s (or parent’s/guardian’s) choice whether or not they or their child agree to being immunised.  

Note under the Health (Immunisation) Regulations 1995 all early childhood education centres and primary schools must maintain an immunisation register, and may request that the caregiver provides their child’s immunisation certificate or record that the child is not immunised.

Your health practitioner will be able to provide you with information that will allow you to make an informed choice.  Health professionals have a duty to give honest and open information about any medical treatment, which includes immunisations.  This ensures that the individual or parent/guardian is able to give their full consent to the immunisation.  The individual or parent/guardian needs to understand the benefits and risks of immunisation, including those to the child and their community, in order to make an informed choice and give informed consent.

The information about immunisation on our website is based on the overwhelming body of scientific evidence that shows the benefits of immunisation far outweigh its risks. This position underpins the health systems of every country in the world.  Another website you may find useful is that of the Immunisation Advisory Centre (IMAC), which provides independent information about vaccine-preventable diseases and the benefits and risks of immunisation (http://www.immune.org.nz).

Kind regards,

Deborah

Ministry of Health
PO Box 5013
Wellington 6145

Free phone: 0800 855 066
Phone: (04) 496 2000
Healthline: 0800 611 116
Email: info@health.govt.nz
Website:www.health.govt.nz


Please do check out the Vaxxed YT channel for injuries and deaths. People need to know what they may be in store for. Also, watch the movie Vaxxed:

LINKS:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/03/duncan-garner-anti-vax-murderers-shouldn-t-get-access-to-the-welfare-system.html?fbclid=IwAR0cTEv7kiRk-JU6kDQzuw7qO7U_Hu-4S94xA0LdWCfdzFdH7BHJ4urgQzY

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